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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Eddie Izzard announces (again) Eddie’s political ambitions

75 replies

Whatdoyoudowhendemocracyfails · 31/01/2021 11:24

Wants to be the first transgender MP. Well, good luck - but will Eddie be taking a place on an all-woman shortlist?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/eddie-izzard-wants-become-uks-23413951

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Impatiens · 01/02/2021 01:57

There's a reason why EI hasn't succeeded in being elected previously and I haven't seen anything lately to suggest this has changed. Surely we've learnt enough from the mess of Trump and Johnson to know that celebrity politicians are no good?

nzborn · 01/02/2021 04:05

He's too late, it was Georgina Beyer in New Zealand years ago also Labour.

nettie434 · 01/02/2021 05:16

Eddie has campaigned for Labour for many years - including canvassing and delivering leaflets. As other posters say, Eddie has stood to be on the party's National Executive Committee (NEC). Actually, I think that prior to Jeremy Corbyn's leadership, Eddie did serve one or two terms on the NEC. However, not being a Corbyn supporter (and having spoken out on anti-semitism), Eddie never won when Corbynistas and Momentum candidates were being elected to virtually every NEC position.

In my view, Eddie has earned the right to seek nomination as a Labour candidate. In most seats, there are many applicants to be the Labour candidate in national elections. My memory is that the rules state that the shortlist on which members vote for their preferred candidate must include at least one man and one woman. From memory, the shortlist is usually about 5 people.

The only potentially controversial situation would be if there was only one woman on the shortlist and that place was taken by Eddie. As with everyone, in deciding who to vote for, the party members would need to consider whether Eddie would ultimately be electable as an MP.

My view is that Eddie has certainly done enough to be considered as a candidate. However, it would not be in the spirit of all women shortlists for a high profile candidate to use rules devised to help women who in the past were often excluded from committees which decided who would be selected to stand as a Labour candidate.

yaboo · 01/02/2021 05:50

If 'they' want to stand, so be it. I'd support their right to stand as a man. It's their democratic right, after all. But standing as a female candidate?

No.

I used to like Eddie Izzard. I liked their 'no, these are not women's clothes, these are MY clothes' angle to their gender-bending. I liked that they painted their nails and wore lippy when they felt like it and didn't give two hoots. I enjoyed the playfulness of it. It was... progressive. And cool. And I even quite fancied them, back then.

But all this 'girl mode' stuff their spouting now? Being 'celebrated' as a 'woman', being fawned over and all the pronoun-correcting hoops everyone who's interviewing them has to go through?

Seems... odd.

I hope Eddie wakes up some time soon. I wish he'd go back to his 'man who wears lipstick and paints his nails' mode.

howonearthdidwegethere · 01/02/2021 07:02

I do hope Eddie stands and demands a place on an AWS. Which is I expect Eddie's plan.

Nothing would delight me more.

Come on, Eddie!

Flowers
Toseland · 01/02/2021 07:41

Maybe Eddie can teach all the boys and girls how to flip between modes without all the expensive surgery, chest binding or dangerous drugs.

Biscuitsanddoombar · 01/02/2021 07:47

I’ll add Dara o Briain to my list of people who have turned out to be disappointing

She & her ing Eddie all over the place whilst at the same time doing regular sketches on the importance of scientific method, calling out homeopathy woo and being married to a doctor. He knows Eddie hasn’t changed sex, he’s just going along with it to “be kind”. After all it doesn’t affect him does it 🙄

FannyCann · 01/02/2021 08:01

According to the news on the radio Eddie has raised £250K for charity. I await with interest which charities are the beneficiaries.

Igneococcus · 01/02/2021 08:08

Was that just now on the Radio 3 news Fanny that was rather a lot of their short news bulletin given over to Eddie.

Deltoids1 · 01/02/2021 08:18

Just heard the Radio 4 news about Eddie’s marathon money raising (which is quite a feat). Had to laugh as they managed to avoid using any pronouns in the entire segment.

OneEpisode · 01/02/2021 08:39

Eddie can’t be the first trans MP if the definition of trans includes Eddie.
This MP was three centuries ago.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Hyde,_3rd_Earl_of_Clarendon

CountessFrog · 01/02/2021 09:19

I used to fancy him too. Especially in eyeliner.

As a girl, no.

FannyCann · 01/02/2021 10:23

Radio 4 Igneococcus

It was too early for me to notice the pronouns Deltoids1 but well done them. Grin

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 01/02/2021 10:35

To be honest, the 31 marathons in 31 days strikes me as an exercise addiction.

Generally speaking, addiction or compulsions of any sort make politics harder than usual

UppityPuppity · 01/02/2021 10:44

Just heard the Radio 4 news about Eddie’s marathon money raising (which is quite a feat). Had to laugh as they managed to avoid using any pronouns in the entire segment.

I was listening out for pronouns too...Do you think the producers etc will get into trouble for not providing EI with his authentic self in girl mode?

Mods - he uses ‘his’ too- so no need for a deletion

peak2021 · 01/02/2021 11:00

I agree he should begin in a no or little hope seat. Now which expensive part of London does he live in?

Beamur · 01/02/2021 12:51

@Deltoids1

Just heard the Radio 4 news about Eddie’s marathon money raising (which is quite a feat). Had to laugh as they managed to avoid using any pronouns in the entire segment.
I heard that too. Quite conspicuous avoiding of pronouns going on. But it's a prodigious achievement and has raised a lot of money. Well done for that!
Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 01/02/2021 18:13

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

To be honest, the 31 marathons in 31 days strikes me as an exercise addiction.

Generally speaking, addiction or compulsions of any sort make politics harder than usual

It made me think of exercise anorexia & how often I notice that revealing oneself to identify as female Hmm seems to be linked with marked weight loss
Bienchen · 01/02/2021 18:13

@Deltoids1

Just heard the Radio 4 news about Eddie’s marathon money raising (which is quite a feat). Had to laugh as they managed to avoid using any pronouns in the entire segment.
But the BBC report about the marathon is getting in masses of she...
BowlerHatPowerHat · 01/02/2021 23:20

Wants to be the first transgender MP
I thought that transpeople were supposed to pass so well that we have been sharing toilets with them for years and never noticed.
So how do we know there hasn't already been a transgender MP?
How can any transperson ever claim to be the first - there may have been one before you who wasn't all 'me, me, me'

HeadPain · 01/02/2021 23:58

I actually voted for Eddie as one of my 6 choices for the NEC, when I was a Labour member. I don't think Eddie should be on an All Women Shortlist, especially if Eddie has not changed legally to F, does not have a Gender Recognition Certificate to my knowledge. Labour might let Eddie on All Women Shortlist though, I think I saw the other day that Labour are still saying "Self-Identified women" will be allowed to stand in All Women Shortlists, ie. those identifying as women who haven't legally changed their documents to F, don't have Gender Recognition Certificate, nor changed any legal documents like passport, driving license, right?

Changechangychange · 02/02/2021 00:15

Re: Lily Madigan, I think she just graduated and got a “proper” job, didn’t she? Like most student politicians. I wasn’t aware there was anything deeper going on there.

Eddie - deeply unpopular in the Labour Party - committed Blairite, which was not exactly flavour of the month in the Momentum era. Goes down like a lead balloon in Red Wall constituencies because she seems unable to talk about serious issues like child poverty and urban deprivation without making awkward, unfunny jokes. Comes across as an insanely out of touch luvvie.

Bluesername · 02/02/2021 00:23

'Girl mode'? Is he also self-identifying as not yet grown up?

CountessFrog · 02/02/2021 00:50

😂

AlfonsoTheSensible · 03/02/2021 12:40

"'Girl mode'? Is he also self-identifying as not yet grown up?"

Eddie can be the first transage MP.

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