Transgender rapist - with anatomy of a man- jailed for 15 years - local newspaper grapples with how to report news when words have lost their meaning

[stumbledin]

So first off - in no way wanting to say the crime isn't the real story.

But just wanted to highlight how the stupidity of pretending identity is the same as the reality of sex (and so totally part of the crime being reported) is leading to this sort of nonsense.

ie the newspaper should have been able to report that a man was found guilty of raping a woman.

The report says:

A transgender rapist “with a propensity to violence” - who identifies as a woman but is yet to undergo surgery- has been jailed for 15 years.

Michelle Winter, 49, was referred to by female pronouns throughout a trial at Cambridge Crown Court; Winter has the anatomy of a man.

(There is nothing in the report to say where Winter will serve his prison sentence)

Please tell me he won’t go to women’s prison?

@allmywhat

Please tell me he won’t go to women’s prison?

TW prisoners' "feelings" seem to endlessly trample the rights of female prisoners when it comes to safety.

This person is a rapist, they should not be housed with female prisoners for very obvious reasons. If a TW prisoner is at risk by being housed in a male correctional facility, then they need to sort out some third spaces. So sick of seeing women put at risk because some male-bodied people are dangerous to other male-bodied people.

there was an article on BBC news this morning about the stigma of victims of female sexual abusers, and the low rates of prosecution etc, and my immediate thought when they gave the statistics of its prevalence was 'how many of those recorded crimes were actually committed by women?'. It might well be that it is all of them; I have no idea, and no evidence to suspect that they weren't. But the fact that it even came up in my mind as a question shows that the confusing language around it all and the confusing way that crimes are reported means that people don't always then trust what they read, which is a shame. If the responses by victims to female or male abuse might need different treatment/therapy, and/or if the causes of female or male abuse might need different policies to prevent the abuse, then keeping the statistics straightforward and clear would surely be a good thing to help those who need to provide those services and policies.

The page title (the "metadata", not the headline) still has not changed and continues to read:

Trans woman jailed for 15 years for raping another woman

It is the name of the tab in your web browser, and thus appears AS IF it is the headline if the story is linked to from social media posts.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I reckon woke guys in IT (not the reporter) did that quite deliberately.

The Metro is a ridiculous paper.

But as mentioned earlier in the thread, it could mean that this is not the first rape this individual has committed.

This person is a rapist, they should not be housed with female prisoners for very obvious reasons. If a TW prisoner is at risk by being housed in a male correctional facility, then they need to sort out some third spaces. So sick of seeing women put at risk because some male-bodied people are dangerous to other male-bodied people.

Male padophiles and narks are at risk from other male prisoners in male prisons. Those risks are dealt with by addressing the issue within the prison, not by putting the at risk male prisoner into the female prison and dumping the problem onto them.

@PopperUppleton

But as mentioned earlier in the thread, it could mean that this is not the first rape this individual has committed.

In theory, if the ongoing trial had been reported as someone being accused of "raping another woman" it could have been abandoned because it could have been construed as "rapes again", which would sound like it was rasing a history of previous convictions.