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WagnersFourthSymphony · 07/01/2021 05:09

That's nice for you.

It's going to be hilarious for most children, obviously. That is not the point. Or, rather - it is: making light of the man who can't keep the silly thing in his pants.

Hilarious except when it isn't, which is far more often than you seem to realise.

InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud · 07/01/2021 07:21

Ok.... so the red flags are hoisted high with this...

What WILL happen...

A man (Christ I can't actually type this) rapes/engages in sexual behaviour with a child, child is then told 'oh no it wasn't me , my dick did it' .... fucking hell

newyearnewname123 · 07/01/2021 08:19

There might be men with evil intent involved but this is so silly.

This is a deliberate breaking down of boundaries. There should be no confusion at all about whether men are in control of their penises.

What possible good motives are there for encouraging children to believe men can't control their penises? Or that it's fine to do what they want until women tell them to put it away?

ArabellaScott · 07/01/2021 09:55

Try and see it from the point of view of a child who has been abused. How will they see it? And from the point of view of a predator looking to abuse children?

FFS, we're not even supposed to use pet names for genitals, partly in an attempt to guard against predators.

MichelleofzeResistance · 07/01/2021 10:36

Hilarious.

Bloody hell, boundaries are so last decade, aren't they? I find it utterly tragic that cool adults have abandoned every standard or line in pursuit of enjoying their own coolness and open mindedness to the point that everything learned about feminism and child protection has been hurled aside as boring old hat.

It will all be learned again from scratch, but it won't be the hip, oh aren't I so cool people who have to do the suffering that forces a re think. It will be children. And it will be fucking shameful. Those adults need to get a fucking grip.

Although taking responsibility for your behaviour is also so five minutes ago.

MichelleofzeResistance · 07/01/2021 10:38

Seriously wonder if there are some who would see a train hammering towards them and reproachfully point out that you're making silly, prejudiced assumptions in your moral panic that they're about to be fucking splattered on the track.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/01/2021 10:42

Elsewhere on AIBU, general agreement from MumsNet in general

Or is this children's programme about a man with the world's largest PENIS rather off http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4128256-Or-is-this-childrens-programme-about-a-man-with-the-worlds-largest-PENIS-rather-off

The Times has covered this too - I've not looked at the comments yet.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/danish-childrens-cartoon-features-man-with-huge-magical-penis-vk7phxbt7?shareToken=6e913fb23bf75aed9628a56a8861b99b

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 07/01/2021 10:45

It would be good to know what children in the target age thought of this cartoon. I thought it was hilarious and am pretty sure that I would have done when I was a kid too.

Of course kids will find it hilarious. That's the whole issue, it normalises for children the idea that men have penises that do "naughty things", but it's not the man's fault, it's not under his control.

Penis puts petrol on the barbecue, hilarious. Not the man's fault, he has a giant out of control penis. Penis forces itself into.woman, hilarious. Not the man's fault, he has a giant out of control penis...

Also normalises that you shouldn't expect a penis to be hidden beneath clothes, that there's nothing to be concerned about if you see a penis in the wild...

BuntingEllacott · 07/01/2021 10:48

Oh yes. Anyone who complains about a kids TV show where a man can blame things on his naughty penis that he can't control is a humourless, joyless prude.

I mean, sure, some men are predators, but NAMALT and safeguarding is something some professionals go on courses for, not anything to do with understanding that grooming doesn't come from men who looking like the fucking Child Catcher, it looks fun and friendly, like leather pup fetishists welcoming kids to a ball pit.

Jesus wept. Better Mary Whitehouse than Jimmy Saville.

MichelleofzeResistance · 07/01/2021 11:04

Also normalises that you shouldn't expect a penis to be hidden beneath clothes, that there's nothing to be concerned about if you see a penis in the wild...

Ooh now wasn't there a couple of political group published guidances setting out how to achieve their goals, which has as steps forward the normalisation of nudity to remove unhelpful boundaries, and removing taboos about separating children from mention of sex organs and genitals?

And how this should be achieved by socially shaming people who protested, calling them useful negative names such as 'prude' or phobic, associating it with being unwanted and unpleasant characteristics like being old, unfashionable, bigoted etc, and that nice people think this ? Because everyone wants to be seen as nice and in with the in crowd and not get picked on.

And yes, on cue, there are sheeple fucking stupid enough to do exactly what they're told. And make the right noises to excuse it and prove how they are nice people who think the right way they're told to . And don't do anything boring and stupid like have boundaries or do critical thinking.

I have invented a new form of bigotry and I'm embracing it, vigorously. From today I am coming out: I am Fuckwitphobic.

MichelleofzeResistance · 07/01/2021 11:07

Honestly. When you fall for idiocy that tells you to separate your thinking into the GOODIES who think this, and the BADDIES that you get to pick on and jeer at for getting it wrong…..

You are being a fuckwit. Loud and proud. For fucks sake do some adulting, you're embarrassing yourself. Angry

KarenMalice · 07/01/2021 12:32

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HecatesCats · 07/01/2021 12:44

Yeah, everything's funny. People thought Jimmy Saville was funny. They literally watched him squeezing girls inappropriately on TOTPs. It's all a good laugh until it turns out the people you suspected might be a bit dodge actually are. This is literally how safeguarding failures happen.

ArabellaScott · 07/01/2021 14:04

Better Mary Whitehouse than Jimmy Saville.

Yes.

ChickenonaMug · 07/01/2021 20:36

Molesmokes, children who are targeted, groomed and sexually abused by paedophiles are not more stupid or gullible than other children. However one of the reasons that abused children fear asking other adults for help is the worry about being judged as stupid or gullible - it is not an unfounded worry either as there are many adults who will consciously or subconsciously place some or most of the blame on the child’s ‘failings’.

Young children usually look at the world around them in order to understand what might be right, wrong, something to worry about etc, so yes this children’s programme is harmful and does make it easier for an abuser to say that they couldn’t help what just happened but here is a treat to say sorry (in the cartoon the ‘out of control’ penis steals an ice-cream from a child but makes it up to them by giving them a balloon instead).

Abusers often tell children that they can’t help their actions and that they have no control over what is happening. They can then use this to persuade the children they are abusing to feel sorry for them and keep the abuse a secret.

Molesmokes · 07/01/2021 21:43

Thanks to ChickenonaMug and others who responded thoughtfully and without attributing some frankly bizarre motives and inferences to my post.

Despite mentioning that I did not expect my post to be popular, I am accused of taking a view in order to appear “cool” and “nice”. Despite saying that I adore Posie and asking if others remember Mary Whitehouse I am accused of public shaming Posie as a “prude” (I never said that) in part because she is “old” (I am old enough to be her mum).

My post was made in good faith. I was sexually assaulted several times as a small child as well as being flashed at and having my hand grabbed and placed on an adult man’s crotch. These were all terrifying experiences.

Finding it funny watching little boys competing to see who could pee highest and furthest did not blind me to danger when grown men exposed themselves to me.

I expect some of you might now argue that this makes me even more of a “fuckwit”.

I still wonder what impact this cartoon has actually had on children. It is out there and children have seen it so it should be possible to find out. If has resulted in children being less alert to danger, more likely to be groomed, etc. then that information is invaluable.

I do take on board what PPs have said about ulterior motives for normalising public nudity. That does makes me wonder however, something that hadn’t occurred to me before because it relates to actual nudity rather than a cartoon, what the impact is on children who grow up spending time on naturist resorts. That would be useful to know, if it has been studied.

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