The Doctor loves JKR

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Anyone else get a daft warm fuzzy feeling when Doctor Who was telling herself a bedtime story in prison, and began with the opening line of Harry Potter? Not sure when this episode was written, but I choose to find significance in the fact the first female Doctor is a fan of JKR!

Another thing that pissed me off was the wet boring companions moaning about not seeing the Dr for 10 months!!

One how long did Sarah Jane have to wait before she saw the Dr again? 20 years? And Amy Pond and her Raggedy Man?

10 months FFS!

And yeah as PPs mentioned old boring, monotone Ryan lecturing the Dr about change. Weirdest moment ever!

We gave up with it really early on, for all the reasons already mentioned

And i so wanted to like it

I thought the woman playing the 14th dr would have been better, Jo Martin...i think thats the only episode apart from the first 4/5 that ive watched

Ive just read that Jodie W is leaving

TartanLassie Yes we all said that as well for goodness sake even one trip with the doctor in her tardis would be the trip of a lifetime for anybody.

How very dare they think they could lecture the doctor and make her feel guilty?

Again with the slap and making the doctor feel guilty is this because she is female? They feel they can get away with this.

I can't see anything about her leaving - last I read she was doing another series.

Maybe she could have done well with better writing, I'm not convinced myself. But the reality is Chibnall's vision for Doctor Who is straight out of pre-hiatus/cancellation, he hasn't got the skill to balance the fanwankery with interesting new ideas of his own, and his screenplays are poorly paced, tedious tick boxes. Frankly, you could cast Jodie Comer at this stage, and it would still be ropey old bollocks.

Pink News claiming John Barrowman is saying the next Doctor might be gender fluid or queer.... I think Ru Paul might be a good choice 🤔

A couple of things came up from various points last year when i googled the 14th dr (to find jo martins name)

Might be wishful thinking on their part 😀

Enjoyed it but yes, its nothing like the heyday.

And yes, nice choice of JKR considering how controversial she's been this year.

I like Jodie's doctor, but yeah, she doesn't seem allowed to boss a situation like other doctors did.

It’s the writing that is letting Jodie W down, not her acting. She was a good choice but the scripts are awful.

The 3 companions thing is shit. Rather have had 1 decent one. Ryan has the emotional range of a plastic garden chair.

I hate this Doctor, it's ruined for me. They can have strong female characters yet made the Doctor pathetic. Her gurning scrunched up thinking/confused face winds me up too.

To me they made a female Doctor that was so bland, sexless and inoffensive it's depressing. She has no fire or strength and the stupid bloody outfit. Non of the male Drs have been this bloody boring. The men have tailored suits with quirky additions.
She ran through a charity shop and looks like a bag lady.

I'd rather someone like River as a doctor. Alex played her so well. Smart and unapologetically female. Or someone more quirky and weird. Basically anyone with a personality.

Not really Jodie's fault. Just poor writing/casting.

I've been re-watching from the beginning over the past few days (well, until they went from Netflix yesterday... will find another source).

I tried really hard to like Jodie - After all, I never like a doctor at first (except 9 for some reason - Ecclestone really leapt right into the role for me), but she was written so self-doubting - which the doctor just isn't - even when he's figuring out who he is after re-generation, it's with the absolute confidence of a 3 year-old, and the all-knowing depth of character is always there - and it just wasn't with Jodie's doctor (which is all the writing).

I always thought that someone like Meera Syal would have been a good choice - I think she'd have rocked it.

Ecclestone really leapt right into the role for me), but she was written so self-doubting - which the doctor just isn't - even when he's figuring out who he is after re-generation, it's with the absolute confidence of a 3 year-old, and the all-knowing depth of character is always there - and it just wasn't with Jodie's doctor (which is all the writing).

Nailed it. She is so uncertain. Like a frightened work experience kid.

Yup. It has been so disappointing to see the female doctor played like this. With boring sidekicks obviously picked to cover diversity quotas. And tedious moralising storylines.

I want escapism, action, humour, fantasy, excitement. This series has certainly not delivered.

Nailed it. She is so uncertain. Like a frightened work experience kid.

Exactly. I stayed for maybe 3 episodes, hoping that it was just a thing, and she'd suddenly click into focus as a sharp doctor. But no. Kept up the whole 'who am I' schtick.

I've got a horrible impression they're going to go down the route of human-in-love-with-the-doctor for Yaz as well.

They've done that. We've had Rose, we've had Martha. Can we please have healthy platonic relationship?

Well, if they're going to do companion witb a crush on the Doctor, there'd have to be some actual chemistry. A petulant shove after some self pitying mooning, and a Doctor with all the command of a room as wilted celery? Pass.

And honestly, Barrowman, bog off back to Arrow and waggling your dick inappropriately in interviews. Actually, no, you can stop that second bit. But also quit with the middle aged man desperate to be relevant schtick too.

Good about JKR, but I agree with other posters about this Doctor, especially the 'being lectured on current affairs/wokeness by a 13yo' bit. We too gave up before the end of the first series.

Wonder whether it will now be argued that it doesn’t work with a woman as the doctor. Perhaps it would have been better with a scriptwriter who didn’t know her sex, or someone who was unsexist enough to have written with “the doctor” in mind, and not a “woman doctor”

I don't think Jodie Whittaker is the problem. She's actually a good actress but she is the victim of terrible writing. I did like last nights episode and thought she was better in this one. Hopefully this means the next series will be better.

I hated that Yaz shoved the Doctor and didn't even apologise at any point.

I am glad Graham and Ryan have left. They are both terrible.

I was hoping for an all female tardis team but alas she is getting a new Male companion.

New marginalised minority: people who have persisted and watched all the new episodes since Chibnall took over.

This cartoon on twitter amused me:

twitter.com/spleenal/status/1345116915954548739?s=19

Well, I really liked the episode, and I can't help coming back to this thread, it's just making me giggle now

• Captain Jack a willy waggler middle aged man (WTF, leave Jack alone, I love him lol)

• Ryan's a garden chair

• Any lady who's middle aged and does something bad is a Karen

Jodie's a work experience kid (not seeing that at all, seems quite confident in the role to me)

Christ, is there anything else people can moan about

Jodie's character is a work-experience kid; it is possible to be very confident in the role of a work-experience kid.

I don't think Jodie's nervous.

I think the show has been fatigued and has been for some time. I actually think Chibnall has penned some good episodes and Whittaker has been ace. I’ve even liked the companions and the ensemble feel of it all.

Unfortunately because it’s now a sacred cow series of the BBC and they won’t let it go for the decade or so to lie fallow it’s been on a trajectory of diminishing returns and will go out with a whimper and not a bang.

I think if it had ended with a bang at that 50th anniversary event that would have been better, and whilst I felt there have been flashes of brilliance since they have been too far between.

Nothing to do with a female doctor, and I like the creatives that have been involved, but it’s something of a poisoned chalice at this point.

I think they need to give RTD all the money to return. I can't believe I thought it was time for him to move on towards the end of his run. Not considering how poor Doctor Who is now. The New Years episode was abysmal. Not sure I can watch anymore

I'll contribute to a crowdfunder.

We've been watching old series over lockdown, and while there were particular problematic areas (when we binge-watched Doctor Who episodes, we started noticing how he characterised mothers), he could write and plot!