Groups who call LGB Alliance hate group now praising former member of Paedophile Information Exchange

[334bu]

Nice ☹️

Edinburgh Pride too !

I don't know anything about this guy - is there proof he's a pedophile? If there is, you should post it or this thread will certainly get removed.

Surrey Pride co-founder, Stephen Ireland, once started a petition against the LGB Alliance so the retweet is unsurprising as is the support for pup-play fetishists at Pride in Surrey.

Here are the receipts

mobile.twitter.com/caithness_pf/status/1199762771820367873

Some people just need to take a look at themselves.

PIE membership....

ahh sorry, your second comment hadn't loaded!

It's a bit hard to see what's going on in the screenshot of a Tweet. Is he definitely a pedophile rather than an altruist who just wants pedophiles to be happy out of, uh, the goodness of his heart? (If he's just a pro-pedophile "activist" and not admitted or proved to be a pedophile himself, you might still need to get the thread title edited.)

A few minutes on Google and I've found a claim from 2014 (Daily Mail) that he belonged to PIE as a teenager. He said when challenged that he didn't really understand what it was all about but was desperate for opportunities to meet other gay male teenagers. Is there more than that? Plenty of people back in the late 60s and 70s opened their minds so much their brains fell out, including Harriet Harman and other senior people in NCCL (now Liberty), and did indeed nod along when PIE argued that the age of consent needed to be brought down or even abolished. Incredible to think of now.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378

Apparently he joined PIE as a teenager hoping to meet other lads. That's the story, I haven't come across any convictions etc.
Also was a member of the Liberal Party.

"You see, the problem here is bigot women and not my support of a paedophile":

twitter.com/TaylorHunterSG/status/1343522666452574209

www.pressreader.com/uk/scottish-daily-mail/20140621/281681137957838
Article from Daily Mail 2014
I have asked for the title to be amended to former member of Paedophile Information Exchange.

Oddly, if aware of the fact, I'd also have kept my offspring well away from 'just' pro-paedophile activists or pro-paedophile fellow travellers of any ilk.

These are some sins that they will forgive. Being an outspoken women is not one of them.

334bu, the correction to being just a member of something called the Paedophile Information Exchange completely sanitises the association.

Not sure it does really - it’s not like joining the brownies or a knitting club is it? And the name is a bit of a giveaway...

Will Amnesty Ireland be along to laud such a fellow progressive?

Strictly speaking a paedophile is someone sexually attracted to children, you don't need to be a child abuser to be a paedophile but obviously the two go hand in hand.

Anyone who is involved in PIE and supports their 'manifesto' is dangerous and even misguided teenagers can be dangerous. He didn't condemn them as an adult and express his regret did he?

Those celebrating him as a man and retweeting RIP are doing worse than simply ignoring or failing to share the full picture of his history, they are tying Pride and the LGBT to PIE and undoing decades of the work done to separate the two.

It's not an innocent acknowledgement of his death.

Not just a member, a co founder? Is that right?

No, the DM article is mostly about someone else, also dead, who was a co- founder.

Ah! There's a rather ambiguous sentence or two in there that made me wonder!

Plenty of people back in the late 60s and 70s opened their minds so much their brains fell out, including Harriet Harman and other senior people in NCCL (now Liberty), and did indeed nod along when PIE argued that the age of consent needed to be brought down or even abolished. Incredible to think of now.

It's incredible at any point in time, the name of the organisation PIE says what it is on the tin. I don't accept anyone's bleating that they didn't really know what it was about and what their aims were, it was a clear as fucking day.

There was an excellent thread on John Hein and his friends on MN last year: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3755189-PIE-again

Worth a read

Oddly, if aware of the fact, I'd also have kept my offspring well away from 'just' pro-paedophile activists or pro-paedophile fellow travellers of any ilk.

Obviously! I think your scare quotes are referencing my (obviously sarcastic, I thought) comment. My interest in suggesting OP get the title amended wasn't to protect the reputation of the PIE member, it was to prevent a thread with important information from being reported and then deleted.

I was a very young child back then and knew nothing about these things until I was adult.I can't remember when I first heard the word paedophile. It was very little talked about before the late 80s, IIRC. What was talked about a lot was equal rights for all sorts of oppressed groups. The old view that old white men knew best was being vigorously challenged. The pill had led to sexual liberation and sex wasn't confined to marriage any more (not that it ever had been, but there was less shame and stigma). Gay male sex was decriminalised. It took a lot longer to get clear recognition that not everybody was benefiting from all this. My impression is that during the brief but intense period when progressives were earnestly supporting the schoolkids who guest edited Oz, leading to a prosecution for obscenity, they genuinely believed it might be oppressive to stop young people expressing themselves sexually. This is obvious nonsense to those who live in the real world and know that paedophiles and children can't have a consensual healthy sexual relationship. But back then the Generation Gap was much talked about, Mary Whitehouse was a figure of fun and being square was unforgivable.

allmywhat, I presumed that. I was just saying out loud how little it differentiated the situation for most people.