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Julie Burchill's book deal cancelled for hate speech *title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*

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Malahaha · 15/12/2020 16:11

It's called Welcome to the Woke Trials and was due to be published in 2021.
I'm not sure who the publisher is; I'll update.
She says: "Reason was 'hate speech' to Ash Sarkar and 'crossing a line' - 'There was also a concern that the line might be crossed again during the promotion of the book.' I'LL SAY!"

OP posts:
Zinco · 27/12/2020 14:31

"Does AS do this? I doubt she's ever read the Quran- her other opinions are not burdened by excessive research. She self identifies as Muslim on the grounds that she thinks there is probably a God and she meditates. The comment was just prejudice."

She may not defend everything in the quran in the exact same way as a fundamentalist does; but she may still be guilty of whitewashing the content. You don't need to have read the quran, to be an apologist for it, and to attack other people as "Islamophobic" for pointing out the dubious nature of its content.

If she identifies as Muslim on such grounds it's a little silly imo.

Zinco · 28/12/2020 02:17

"There are 2-3 different ages given in hadith but they are all written at least 100 years after his death."

A good source on this issue...

wikiislam.net/wiki/Aisha%27s_Age

"In the modern era, Aisha's age at marriage has been a source of controversy and debate. Some Muslims have attempted to revise the previously-accepted timeline of her life.[12] All biographical information on Muhammad and his companions was first recorded over a century after his death,[13] but the hadith and scripture provide records of early Islam through allegedly "unbroken chain of witnesses". Various hadiths stating that Aisha was either nine or ten at the time of her consummation come from collections with sahih status, meaning they are regarded as reputable by the majority of Muslims. Some other traditional sources also mention Aisha's age. The sira of Ibn Ishaq edited by Ibn Hisham states that she was nine or ten years old at the consummation. The historian al-Tabari also states that she was nine."

Hadith from authoritative collections repeatedly say that she was a young child at the time. Whether or not those sources are historically reliable, they are part of the religion regardless, and believed by Muslims, except where they are trying to explain things away for apologetics purposes.

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