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Request please for links lost on deleted thread (to get information links only- not a taat)

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LadyInParis · 11/12/2020 16:44

Information links request from the ‘Picture’ thread that was just deleted..

Hi, this is my first post but a lovely poster sent me some links re trans information and I wanted to read the information later. The thread was deleted so I didn’t get the chance to read it. @Datun if you see this please could you reply with the links if you don’t mind? I’d like the information you did kindly post for me. I appreciate if you can spare the time to re post them here please :)

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LadyInParis · 12/12/2020 19:26

I hope I got the right ones and in order Confused

Request please for links lost on deleted thread (to get information links only- not a taat)
Request please for links lost on deleted thread (to get information links only- not a taat)
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allmywhat · 12/12/2020 19:32

Lady Flowers

One thing I can tell you that is good about seeing all this is that it eventually makes the world make more sense. I've been angry for feminist reasons since childhood, but I was never able to articulate those reasons very well. Reading lots of feminist blogs in the past never helped me pin down the anger well enough to express it (the blogs were the stupid kind of feminism.)

Witnessing and being horrified at happening with the trans movement is a massive feminist awakening. It's so blatant how random male whims are prioritised over women's safety and wellbeing.

And oddly, I'm much less angry now. I know exactly why I've been angry, and it's 100% valid (a word which is used in ridiculous ways by the trans movement but if you have BPD you'll know it's also got its er, valid, uses) and I can meet the anger with grace and self-compassion. I couldn't do that before, when I couldn't quite understand what I was angry about.

Oh, I read your story before the thread was vanished. I didn't know what to say. I have been before in the position of acting arsey with the wrong people, when trauma was triggered, so in one way I know where you were coming from. But in another way I can't even imagine, because I've never experienced anything remotely as horrific as what you went through. I hope you stay around, anyway. Feminism (the non-stupid kind of feminism) is good for you. Flowers Brew

Winesalot · 12/12/2020 20:24

I think because now I know that I can no longer shut my eyes nor sit and defend the things that I thought were the right and good things to defend.

Unfortunately, once you see it, you cannot unsee it. Please understand that women around the world are coming together to support women (the vulva people kind). You can still support females and hopefully support those trans friends of yours too.

Like many of us, you might find yourself reading and reading. I always try to read the studies and evidence put forward by all sides. I am waiting to find some compelling evidence that will convince me that males who identify as women should have access to the rights set aside for women to ensure they have equal access to the same opportunities as males.

So far, it has revolved around emotive arguments that have ignored the needs of women, the efforts of women to overcome discrimination to succeed (and yes, trans people have discrimination but it is from a different base and most likely not from birth as female’s experience it. And they certainly need their own unique protective needs) or the biological advantage males have (including understanding that females encounter discrimination due to pregnancy/birth).

But I keep reading. I think that many of us do.

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