Suzanne Moore on newsnight any moment now!

[stumbledin]

Or I think she is. Just caught the end of the intro to the programme.

They are on Brexit at the moment so at the end?

Watching.
Wish they would hurry up!

She seems really nervous!

Disappointing

Very disappointing. Such an awkward uncomfortable watch but I’m not sure why. It was very stilted.

Kirsty Wark is giving me the absolute rage.

Bloody handmaiden.

What the fuck was the end bit about being more enlightened about? That whole interview seemed like an attack.

Despite her comments about women having to keep fighting, it looked like the fight has been knocked out of her. Felt sorry for her. She did not seem to be in a “good place”

And Suzanne seemed really out of her element. I can understand her nerves though. I can get so nervous talking about this in RL, and nobody knows who I am. Nobody is sending me and my family death/rape threats.

That was really pathetic. Have long thought Kirsty Wark is fighting to keep her job as she often overdoes that I'm going to catch you out question to politicians.

And here it was like the BBC Woke Committee had primed her what was accetable to say. Does KW / BBC know about the EA. Why would she think it legitimate to only talk about how trans feel and not how women feel.

I do wonder whether as they are both women in the media they didn't sort of choreographed the whole thing.

In the past you could go on the Newsnight facebook page and make comments, but they just dont bother with it anymore. They are totally into tweeting to the twitterati (the smalled SM group).

But sad that Suzanne Moore felt she needed to be so low key.

More enlightened? What? Would you reckon the way some TRAs talk on Twitter is more enlightened than, say, A Woman's Place?

SO disappointed with Kirsty Wark.

@weaselwords

What the fuck was the end bit about being more enlightened about? That whole interview seemed like an attack.

Yes

I thought Suzanne looked unwell.
Low, anxious, scared.
I really felt for her.
She knows she is going to get piled on for doing the interview at all and get threatened and be at risk of retaliation.
That's actually what unsafe actually is unlike some idiot in a newsroom who 'felt unsafe' because she disagreed with them.

It's a tragedy that that is the extent of debate that two intelligent women in the public eye can have on this subject on the BBC. Just pussyfooting about kowtowing to TRAs looking terrified.

Cis privilege my arse.
They have made privilege

what a wasted opportunity

Ah, out of touch with the ''enlightened generation''. Please 🙄. They really have swallowed the ''all ''terfs'' are far-right dinosaurs so out of touch with the yoof'' bollocks, haven't they? Bless. I've got some very disappointing news for them...

And you can be as enlightened as you like, it'll never change the fact that women and girls will always need protecting from the male sex class.

The comment about the youth being more enlightened was ageist nonsense. I am very disappointed but not surprised by Kirsty Wark's tack, and by Suzanne Moore's performance though you can hardly blame her for being exhausted by it all.

Feck off with your 'cis' Kirsty. Newsnight are so scared of putting a foot wrong - the interview I watched with Suzanne on You Tube (cant remember who it was with now) was brilliant. That was just shite.

Kirsty Wark was pretty awful to the climate change woman when pressing her on what sanctions she planned if more women weren’t involved in running the climate change conference. There was a very clear inference that she was toothless. When KW first asked why more women weren’t involved in running the conference I yelled “The Patriarchy” at the tv. I wish the interviewee had yelled along with me ☹️

That was Mary Robinson, former Irish PM that she was being patronising to as well.

I threw three cushions at the tv during that interview. Disgraceful. KW should feel ashamed of her performance

I agree that the comment about the yought being more enlightened is just pathetic. But the BBC is rife with that. All their presenters do that. Act up about how out of touch they are. Must be despaparate for younger viewers.

Isn't it time people faced up to the fact that a lot of young people, aren't as well informed as they like to think they are, partly because they haven't experienced that much life. The idea that programmes should be dumbed down to the level of young people is as daft as asking a young person to engage on the level of a toddler.

But also as a remark to presume that each now generation is more enlightened is absolutely bs. Do you think the parents on those in the Nazi Youth thought that?

And I dont know anyone who lived through the 70s and had different experiences thought anything about the politics of the 80s was more enlightened. It was another era of back to the future. Just as we have now.

I thought there was all this stuff now about how BBC presenters are supposed to be neutral? There’s absolutely nothing neutral about starting from the premise that TWAW, as Wark apparently did.

Going to the BBC must have been a bit like going back to the Guardian for Suzanne. That same culture of woke misogyny and thought policing. Ugh. Perhaps that’s why she seemed so ill at ease.

KW is no Emily Matliss is she. Emily was much better with Keira the other week. Poor Suzanne

Sorry just slipping this in as it sort of relates, but two comments from Private Eye about the Guardian and Moore.

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Wonder how that interview would have gone if Emily Matliss had done it?
Very differently I suspect.

It's funny how intellectually lazy people assume young people are automatically more enlightened than older people.

I always get a vision of the last scene of Cabaret with all the young people singing Tomorrow Belongs to Me.

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