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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rachel Rooney criticised by Philip Pulman

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HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 06/12/2020 17:04

Rachel Rooney who wrote a delightful book about children feeling comfortable with their bodies has been described as 'hateful' by author Philip Pullman in response to a tweet by Clara Vulliamy. Rooney has written about this on Twitter. I'm so upset for her:

twitter.com/rooneyrachel/status/1335610842222653441?s=21

twitter.com/philippullman/status/1335523666847813632?s=21

Rachel Rooney criticised by Philip Pulman
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CrossPurposes · 06/12/2020 22:31

SisterWendyBuckett

I'm heartbroken for you. What a terrible position you are in.

RozWatching · 06/12/2020 22:37

Vulliamy was completely out of order the first time, but this latest just makes her look like someone with a personal vendetta. It's nasty and unnecessary. I don't care what her personal circumstances are, this bullying has to stop.
PP comes across as a clueless, pompous arse. His reply to RR
"Ashamed of supporting someone I like and admire?"
Yeah, supporting her in bullying a children's author who has done nothing wrong. Ffs.

BettyDuKeiraBellisMyShero · 06/12/2020 22:40

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ClaireP20 · 06/12/2020 22:40

@Backbee

I hadn't heard of this book, but will be buying a few copies.
Good luck with that - it seems Amazon has removed it....
HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 06/12/2020 22:46

You can buy it here:

www.transgendertrend.com/product/my-body-is-me/

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ClaireP20 · 06/12/2020 22:46

@SisterWendyBuckett

I'm horrified to see what CV intimated about Rachel Rooney and her lovely, body-affirming book. PP's response was utterly ignorant and wrong.

Undoubtedly Keira's case has rattled a lot of cages and many with a vested interest are attempting to push back very forcefully. Especially in the light of so many brilliant, eye opening articles in the papers this weekend.

However, I am loathe to criticise other parents and consign them to the 'bad' box if they cheerlead their kids. Because it is very very hard to not go along with this.

If you don't become your child's number 1 supporter and amplify the ideology then it is likely you'll be branded as transphobic and a bigot.

Depending on the age of your child, they may completely cut you out of their life and this can cause absolute havoc throughout the family.

Any parent who has the strength to stand firm and chooses not to enable and collude becomes metaphorically gagged and literally silenced. The battle to own truth is at the heart of this movement and dissenting parents will be sacrificed.

I chose not to collude. I tried to help my daughter understand that her body was absolutely perfect in all its beautiful femaleness. I begged her to keep her future options open. To pause before embarking on medical treatments as things had escalated so quickly.

She hasn't spoken to me
or her Dad since before beginning testosterone over 2 years ago and will have nothing to do with us.

We simply couldn't
go along with the madness, revision of her history or support medical transition - and it has been unspeakably painful to take this position.

For me, wanting my daughter to remain physically whole and to work through her mental distress was the most truly loving thing I could do as a mother. But others will make a different choice.

I might wish they didn't affirm and enable, I might profoundly disagree with their solutions but I don't blame them. I have to believe that they think they are doing the best for their children. And that this vile ideology makes losers of us all.

That sounds so painful - what a wonderful and strong woman you are, I'm so sorry for what you've been through xx
RandomGel · 06/12/2020 22:48

@ClaireP20 @Backbee
You can buy a copy here: www.transgendertrend.com/product/my-body-is-me/
Easy enough with a PayPal account.
It doesn’t surprise me that Amazon have refused to sell it. Good reviews and yet the book is no longer available 🤔

ClaireP20 · 06/12/2020 22:49

[quote HecatesCatsInXmasHats]You can buy it here:

www.transgendertrend.com/product/my-body-is-me/[/quote]
Just ordered - thank you

Melroses · 06/12/2020 23:03

SisterWendyBuckett Flowers

Hopefully in the future parents and children will have more open choices available and not end up in this no win situation.

NoSquirrels · 06/12/2020 23:06

SisterWendyBuckett I'm so sorry. That's heartbreaking.

Defaultname · 06/12/2020 23:08

If there was a Like button, all the posts in support of SisterWendy, who's been true to her child's best interests, would've had them.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 06/12/2020 23:09

Has amazon really wussed out and refused to stock it?

PotholeParadies · 06/12/2020 23:15

It's such an odd exchange as she is saying that Rachel has attacked her... Im very confused.

I think she's trying to claim/imply that Rachel has posted on the thread? But she hasn't. Zero deleted posts and no hidden posts.

So I think that what she means is that Rachel Rooney replied on her very own twitter profile and Rachel's friends supported Rachel there. Clara finds it a personal affront that Rachel has friends too? Oh, and it's all the big bad Rachel's fault that Clara's family members had a nose at what Rachel's friends were saying back.

This woman's thread is... Odd with a capital O and so are all the people clapping her.

She claims a book is propaganda, but she never says why. Her evidence is that the same group produces some stickers she opposes. That's not evidence a book is horrible, is it?

She wants to lay into Rachel Rooney on a public website, but she doesn't want Rachel Rooney to be aware of it?

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 06/12/2020 23:19

Some people claim actual, literal attacks when in reality it’s they disagree or have said something they don’t like. Some people do exaggerate and play the drama queen.

CrossPurposes · 06/12/2020 23:21

I can't find it in stock and/or listed at any online sellers which I hope is a supply chain issue rather than anything more sinister.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 06/12/2020 23:22

I think it might be self-published?

PotholeParadies · 06/12/2020 23:23

All that wibbling about trying to make her thread a safe space!

It remained a flipping safe space. Hmm Rachel was tagged in and so could have replied there, but she had too much dignity to do so.

NotTerfNorCis · 06/12/2020 23:24

Re the blocking, I can see Vulliamy say this (from another account):

There's a muffled roar at my door but the block is holding out (thank you @Terfblocker)

The rest of their rant is too dull to quote.

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 06/12/2020 23:24

@CrossPurposes

I can't find it in stock and/or listed at any online sellers which I hope is a supply chain issue rather than anything more sinister.
It's available here: www.transgendertrend.com/product/my-body-is-me/
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ThatIsNotMyUsername · 06/12/2020 23:26

Oh they sell packs of 10! When ds was little I used to give his old books to local libraries, doctors/dentists surgeries, nurseries...🤗

RozWatching · 06/12/2020 23:28

SisterWendyBuckett Flowers

It's so difficult for parents when the ideology is everywhere and it comes with the message that the whole world including your parents is against you. The relationship can break down even when parents do everything they can to affirm.

CrossPurposes · 06/12/2020 23:34

Yes and I have bought a copy but I meant that nowhere else that sells Rachel Rooney books and would be expected to have this particular book in stock (Amazon, Wordery, Hive, Book Depository, bookshop.org, etc) has it available.

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 06/12/2020 23:39

That appears to be the case, yes.

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Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 06/12/2020 23:52

Sisterwendy Flowers it really does seem like a cult doesn’t it - go with them or be shunned Sad

All that time we assumed PP would have been with Lyra & Will & it turns out he would have been working for the Consistorial Court of Discipline Hmm

Solidarity with Rachel who writes beautifully & comes across as a really really good person Flowers

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 06/12/2020 23:54

Phillip Pullman, who wrote a trilogy about ideologically rigid, obsessive adults cutting away essential parts of children before they'd had the chance to reach adulthood and settle into themselves.

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Wow, well observed, littlbrowndog! What a hypocrite.