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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

No "female" gender option at work, only "cisgender female"

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Fittata · 04/12/2020 09:32

We have all been asked to update our personal information at work to list things such as our ethnicity, gender, security orientation etc. I think it is as part of a drive to be more diverse.

I am a bit uncomfortable being asked to express my sexual prefences at work anyway as I can't see how it is relevant, however I have done as asked. I am a straight, married woman.

On the gender identification section it lists about ten different genders but there is no male or female, just cisgender male and cisgender female. I ticked the option "my gender is not listed here" as I do not identify as "cisgender" as I find the term offensive and do not want to be defined as "not trans".

I am worried that my massively woke manager is going to take issue with this so I'm a bit worried about what I ticked. At the same time I feel like I should be doing more and asking HR why there is no "female" option but I am so worried at losing my job by sticking my neck out like this.

Not really sure what I'm asking here but just wondering if I have done the right thing and what to say if I'm challenged.

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HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 04/12/2020 17:37

There was this case, which may be the one Steal was referring to:

A man realised women are treated differently in the workplace after he accidentally signed off on emails using his female co-worker's signature.

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/gender-inequality-man-woman-switch-names-week-martin-schneider-nicky-knacks-pay-gap-a7622201.html?amp

WattleOn · 05/12/2020 05:42

@Collidascope

I'd be really annoyed. It's like asking your religion and then giving you the options of "infidel" or "heretic" rather than "atheist" or "agnostic." It presumes you're happy to describe yourself in the terms of a very niche ideology.

If asked, just say you aren't comfortable talking about your gender identity. Or that you're gender-free.

Good analogy
10CharityCards · 05/12/2020 06:08

I've become so annoyed with this whole thing that when we were recently promoted to update our personal data at work I went through and changed every single answer to 'prefer not to say'.

Is it petty? Yes.
Possibly in fact even counter-productive? Yes.
But it was a lovely moment of catharsis which really can't be directly challenged.

10CharityCards · 05/12/2020 06:08

*prompted

ThinkWittyThoughts · 05/12/2020 06:26

@10CharityCards

I've become so annoyed with this whole thing that when we were recently promoted to update our personal data at work I went through and changed every single answer to 'prefer not to say'.

Is it petty? Yes.
Possibly in fact even counter-productive? Yes.
But it was a lovely moment of catharsis which really can't be directly challenged.

I did the same recently. However there was no option to do that for gender, which had been pre-set to female and I couldn't change it.

I'm still considering raising an objection but haven't quite decided the best way to do this yet.

CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 05/12/2020 11:31

maybe you could ask why they haven't got an entry for furry on the list as you feel like there might be some in the company that need that option for their gender expression but might not like to say?

😂

I love your posts!

merrymouse · 05/12/2020 11:37

Given that the whole point of the GRA 2004 was to comply with the human right to privacy, this questionnaire seems very dodgy.

I think you have done the right thing, and if challenged you should point out the privacy issue.

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