Mastercard

[happydappy2]

anyone seen the new ad? Seems to be making identity fraud a lot easier!

First World Problems!

Actually I think it's really irresponsible encouraging an already vulnerable group with a tendency towards introspection to believe that this stuff is important. It's the polar opposite of resilience.

Non issue here in Scotland, anyone has the right to change their name.

My cards just have initial and surname. So what’s the problem exactly?

Besides - put any name on there, legally held or not. What could possible go wrong? Don’t people realise they will be questioned if they hand over a card with a name that doesn’t ‘look right’?

Anyone got a link to the ad?

I saw it on twitter.

I feel sorry for any shop worker who has to accept any card now - so a big hairy bloke could come in with the name ‘Miss Mary Smith’ on a stolen card and there could be no checks or queries? Oh yes, playing a blinder there MistressCard...

Okay, I’ve found it now. As others have said, I thought nearly all cards only had the initial on it. I have been with over 5 banks in my lifetime and have never had my first name in full on my card.

Do you think they are talking about the title? So if you’re trans, you want it to say Mr A Brown rather than Ms A Brown? But which shopkeeper ever asks to see your card? We’ve had chip and pin and contactless for years now. Unless your card is faulty, you never hand over your card so the idea that you’re discriminated against when paying for a drink in a shop is stupid.

I’m in favour of abolishing use of titles as I find them sexist to women (distinguishing according to marital status and not doing so for men) so I think a card should just have the initial and surname anyway and I think some banks already do this. And anyone is of course free to change their name to anything they want, regardless of if they are trans, and when they do, they can update their bank details. However I can’t see any benefit in allowing people to use a name that isn’t theirs on a card. If anything, it will cause problems when you have to pay over the phone and they tell you you have to be the account holder and you say that your name on the account is Thomas Brown but the name on your card is Jessica Brown. Just change your name and get it all amended to the name you prefer.

I haven't seen the advert but from the context of this thread I assume it's something to do with the astonishing (to some) discovery a credit or debit card does not need to have a full first name or title.

I have 2 credit cards and 2 debit cards. These accounts were opened at least 35 years ago.

2 of them have Ms and only initials; 1 has Ms Full first name and middle initial. 1 has no title and only initials. They are all Mastercard.

Well it’s an advert depicting a transman buying a bottle of fizzy drink and looking all relieved that the person behind the till doesn’t challenge him about his credit card because MasterCard lets you use ‘any name you want’. I presume that, like all people, the transman would have used contactless so where the opportunity to challenge the name on the card would have come from, I don’t know.

My MasterCard from Santander has Ms on and I’d prefer no title but my sister has a Barclaycard with full name, no title so it varies from bank to bank. I still don’t get why someone who was trans wouldn’t just change their name and title officially (which is fairly easy to do) and have that on all their documents rather than have one name on their credit card and another on other documentation. But then I’m not the advertising bods at MasterCard, trying to make maximum profits by latching on to trendy causes.

My bank card has Miss Full first name, middle initial, full surname. Probably be more logical to do away with titles and use first initial and full surname.

Is this an American thing? I saw some American posters on the twitter thread saying America is quite behind with chip and pin and contactless?

all relieved that the person behind the till doesn’t challenge him about his credit card because MasterCard lets you use ‘any name you want’

Presumably it always has? My credit cards are both Bank of Scotland Mastercard- one is Ms Full first name plus middle initial and surname. The other is no title and only initials and surname.

Yeah it may well be an American thing. Here is the ad:

I also am in favour of just initial and surname and no title. Sick of the ‘is it Miss or Mrs’ stuff. Why should I have to announce my relationship status at every turn, or indeed whether I am male or female? It’s nonsense if you think about it.

Titles on debit and credit cards are not common in the US. Nobody I know has a title on any of their cards. Mastercard seems to be implying that passing trans people are being challenged by retail workers. Unless these workers are mind readers, how would they know? Empty virtue signaling.

Yes the odds of a lidl or aldi cashier taking your card and spending a few minutes to look deep into your eyes and smile is really high.

Oh, I misinterpreted that video. They're talking about people who haven't changed their names yet. Still don't believe it's that much of an issue.

It is a strange concept to think that a name on a credit card is all that is between them and abuse. If someone is going to abuse someone they will do it regardless. Just bloody virtue signalling that in no way addresses any real issues.

I have a MC, I may see if they will change my name to Fanny Floppers.

It is more head scratching that they have trade marked it.

But go to Starbucks and pay with your master card, and all will be good. I think if I was trans that these adverts would annoy me as it is all just so superficial and not where abuse is likely to happen.

Probably, more people work in a school - like me - than are transgender.

I get abuse sometimes, from students and ex students, emboldened when they are out of school to shout at me in the street - the last time only a few weeks ago some treasure shouted 'rabbit woman takes it up the arse!!' across the road at me whilst I was getting a macdonalds....

Please can Mastercard do something for poor people like me? To protect me from abuse?

.... Oh, by the way, the abuse I get is heightened because they know my name.... 😂😂

Annoying woke advert. 🙄 This new mantra the movement is peddling, including Amnesty, "I AM WHO I SAY I AM" has so many red flags. Try applying it in real life though. It didn't help me trying to get into our local recycling Center the order Day with a car full to the brim with bags of leaves. Despite having a printed off booking reference, I'd accidentally brought an out of date council tax Bill as proof of address and they wouldn't accept it. Totally militant about it. But but but I am who I say am!! 🤷‍♀️

..... I am a rabbit....

Anyone who has ever had to interview people for a job knows - people are generally not what they say they are (or more who they want to be). There have been cases of doctors working when they hadn’t passed exams or have been struck off.

Don’t the credit card companies still offer “additional cards”? Perhaps once intended for a family member without their own credit?
I’m sure back in the 80’s people in transition got an additional card in the name of the target identity, so they could make purchases in both the old and new name. I’m sure at least one card company advertised this capability in the specialist press- more than three decades ago.

It would still be in a card of a name that wasn’t legal though wouldn’t it? I sometimes used my CC to prove my id as I don’t drive and don’t carry a passport around with me.

I’d they’d said - just have an initial and surname, then that would be ok surely? But I guess they have a trend to follow.

It's so sinister how the ideology has weaseled its way into the corporate world like this.

Such a poor wee group needing extra care and attention.

Is this an American thing? I saw some American posters on the twitter thread saying America is quite behind with chip and pin and contactless?
I used contactless in America last year. The shop assistant was amazed that it actually worked. Apparently they've had the system for a while but I was the first person she's actually seen using it.