98% of those murdered globally were trans women - fake news on internal work groups

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This particular snippet

"98% of those murdered globally were trans women"

Appeared on an internal work message board last week. Do organisations have a duty to ensure that information that is published internally is not misleading?

Sorry can you clarify context of quote? Could be accurate if talking about trans MTF compared to FTM deaths ?

No context, it was a bullet point list.

Who posted it?

I don't claim to be an expert in homicide statistics but that's clearly bullshit... If there's any truth to it I'd assume, as a PP has suggested, that's it 'of all murders of trans people, 98% were trans women'. I'd raise it though OP because it's so clearly incorrect.

It's a staff message board, so a member of staff.

don't claim to be an expert in homicide statistics but that's clearly bullshit... If there's any truth to it I'd assume, as a PP has suggested, that's it 'of all murders of trans people, 98% were trans women'. I'd raise it though OP because it's so clearly incorrect.

Yes, I imagine that's the case. Most are MTF rather than FTM trans people. But that's quite an error!

I just wondered, given the condemnation of sites like Facebook for spreading fake news, and their efforts to address this I wondered if there was any obligation on an organisation to have some sort of reporting mechanism.

Without knowing who "those" are, it's hard to have any kind of informed view about this.

If you wanted to contact management to discuss whether such a notice should be up, you could go down the path that someone is attempting to spread an apparently baseless fear among any trans people who might see the notice.

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I don't claim to be an expert in homicide statistics but that's clearly bullshit... If there's any truth to it I'd assume, as a PP has suggested, that's it 'of all murders of trans people, 98% were trans women'. I'd raise it though OP because it's so clearly incorrect.

I agree.

What complete twaddle. Do people not think 'hold on a tick...' when they post this stuff?

I'd ask for clarification, OP. It might also be a helpful way of also pointing out the good news that no trans people have been murdered in the UK in 2019 or 2020.

Yes that is clearly not true by itself as a statement. I think around 77% of murders are of men, so it would be impossible for 98% of all murders to be MtF transwomen regardless of whether they were counted as men or as women.

I'd be tempted to faux innocent respond to that: gosh, that's a scary stat isn't it, especially given no trans people were murdered in the UK in the past two years. What do you think the UK is getting right? What's going wrong elsewhere?

Then I'd create a new post about the femicide survey (out today), but I'm passive aggressive like that.

98% of who murdered were transwomen? Just 'people'? That's clearly not true. What were the rest of the bullet points about, what was the general message about?

There are 100k plus people murdered globally a year. 98k plus are not MTF trans people.

I saw this on social media over the weekend. Can’t remember where but spent a while staring at it trying to make sense of it! It seemed in the end the jpegs were out of order and I think the point it may have been trying to make was 98% of all trans murder victims were trans women? Either way it was all a confusing soup of unconvincing stats - but enough to muddy the waters, for sure. If the 98% stat is what people see first I guess it’s the one they’ll remember.

I once heard that 93.7% of all statistics are made up.

I bet 99% of the murderers were people with penises.

Faux naïveté is your friend here. 'I was so shocked by the statistics quoted that I googled to find out more — and I was reassured to discover that no transpeople have been murdered in the UK in the last two years. And it's certainly not true that of all the 100,000 people murdered around the world each year, 98% are trans. So transpeople terrified by that statistic need to know it's wrong. We don't want to scare them, it could be seen as bullying.'

I run my own small business and internal comms are for discussing work issues, not for disseminating false information.

What point were they trying to make by stating that 98% of murdered trans people were transwomen? Is it an attempt to say that transmen (females) are at lower risk of violence than transwomen (males)?

Did they happen to shares the statistics for what percentage of those murders were committed by males or females, transwomen or transmen?

Here you go:

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It's saying that of the total number of trans and gender-diverse people murdered from October 2019 to September 2020, that is 350, 98% of them were "trans women or femmes".

It’s of the 350 trans people murdered. I found this on Facebook
On this Transgender Day of Remembrance, we remember and honor the more than 350 documented lives lost to hatred, violence and stigma. We know we will never know the true number of lives lost each year - we hold space for each name that we do not know and hold the names of those we do in the light today.

Consider these statistics:
Worldwide, 98% of the total number were trans women
The average age was 31 (the youngest this year was 15)
1/5 were murdered in their homes
In the U.S., 79% of those murdered were trans women of color

Today, please consider taking a stand with our trans kindred by making a contribution to The Trans Women of Color Collective as they continue to fight this war with love.

The location stat is interesting.

38% killed in the streets
22% killed in their homes.
Where were the other 40% killed?

Yes, looks like someone has done some copying of the stats on the right but forgotten to include the context.

^The location stat is interesting.
^^
^38% killed in the streets
22% killed in their homes.
Where were the other 40% killed?

I'm assuming that they maybe don't know for sure.

Killed at work? I thought that in the Americas, many of those transpeople that were murdered were working in the sex industry, which has a larger then usual murder rate worldwide.

That's a possibility yes.