Male violence

[AnneElliott]

twitter.com/corrinepriest/status/1324755733389430794?s=21

Not sure if there's already been a thread about this (apologies if so) but how awful the male is to follow and threaten a woman for speaking on the phone to her mum!

@AnneElliott

She does say Plan "I wasn't talking about you - I was talking about the people on my tube".

I went back to listen again to see if what I heard as “Did you say it?” Him “Not to you. I was talking to my mum on the phone. I promise it wasn’t to you.” her “Well, because it seemed directed at me” him “I’m sorry. I don’t want any trouble. I was just talking to my mum about people not wearing masks on my tube.”

Was
“Not about you.” Instead. I suppose it could be, I may have misheard.

But the video is deleted now on Twitter? I wish there were a transcript because it happens very fast.

I can hear her say it twice very clearly 'it wasn't about you'. Then he goes on to say it seemed directed at him.

Video still up when I click the link?

Ok, clicked link again, and this time second video is back.
At first she says it wasn’t “to you” but you’re right later on she does say “it wasn’t about you”

Need a transcript.

Regardless of what she said and who she was talking about she was having a private phone conversation. In what universe does that give a complete stranger the right to follow her and berate her?
That is not the behavior of a nice man, its deranged.

Hideous thread.

The guy's a crackpot.

The losers defending him need to properly get a grip of themselves.

PlanDeRaccordement

The video is not deleted on twitter.

@letsgoroundagainbaby

PlanDeRaccordement

The video is not deleted on twitter.

Well one time I clicked the link to go back to it, the second video was missing. I don’t know why that happened. It did show back up when I tried again though. :)

I hope no one thinks I’m defending him, I’m not.

He clearly was harassing and intimidating her and was wrong to follow and confront her.

All I’ve questioned is the extent of his wrongness- I don’t see any violence as the title implies and I didn’t hear any threats myself, although others view what his said as threatening which is fair enough.

English is my third language and I know from living in England that English people are not always direct in what they say. The “I know people....” isn’t on the face of it a threat to me, but if it’s used in England as a threat of physical violence, then ok. But that’s a cultural thing I wouldn’t pick up on.

Fortunately the MET have got him so all your questioning of his "wrongness" is not needed.

Ugh. Nasty, aggressive man, with such a high sense of delusion about his own importance, it's difficult to listen to.

I can't be the only one who thinks he's thoroughly enjoying himself, either.

Yes he just sounds so confident and sure of himself @Datun. Like he has no fear or concern about the way he's behaving.

All I’ve questioned is the extent of his wrongness- I don’t see any violence as the title implies and I didn’t hear any threats myself, although others view what his said as threatening which is fair enough

Everything he did was a threat or implied threat--

followed her, with intent to intimidate, accosted her with accusations, would not back off when told he was being aggressive for no reason, got into her private space and interpreted her private conversation for his own ends, felt he had every right to do so...I could go on.

He has decided that he has every right to control a woman's behaviour in a public place. So he wasn't physically violent? Doesn't have to be.

All I’ve questioned is the extent of his wrongness- I don’t see any violence as the title implies and I didn’t hear any threats myself, although others view what his said as threatening which is fair enough

Following her and forcing her to apologise under the perceived threat of violence, whether he was really going to hurt her or not is enough. He made her feel that he was going to arrange for her to be hurt. I would have been frightened if he had followed me and shouted in my face, until I felt compelled to apologise to him to get him to stop. The law doesn't support that behaviour.

I can do what I like, the world is my oyster, (implying that it's not hers), I know people, you need to apologise again, you're a cunt, a slag, if you say anything about me, or anyone else, that I disagree with, I have every right to intimidate the fuck out of you.

If he didn't have all the power in the world to actually slug this woman, he wouldn't do any of that.

He knows, he's always known, he doesn't even need to be violent, he's a 'nice guy', remember?

The threat is implicit, he's one hundred percent relying on it, invoking it.

Without it, he has no power to do any of this.

Because, if this man never wears a mask, he will be encountering opposition, whether deserved or not, on a daily basis.

You can bet your bloody life he doesn't act like this to a bloke.

How frightened she must have felt.

Cunt and slag he called her

She said she felt so frightened that she had to say submissive sorry

You can bet your bloody life he doesn't act like this to a bloke

No, if it was a 6"5, 20 stone skinhead he wouldn't have made a peep.

@DrDavidBanner

You can bet your bloody life he doesn't act like this to a bloke

No, if it was a 6"5, 20 stone skinhead he wouldn't have made a peep.

A 6'5, 20 stone skinhead probably wouldn't have phoned his Mum to complain about other people not wearing masks.

Oh lovely, yet another fucker come on here to say "she deserved it" (because he got the wrong end of the stick eavesdropping on a private phone conversation).

Just fuck off to the far side of fuck with the victim blaming. And when you get there, fuck off some more. And take the horse you rode in on with you.

Very tetchy tonight due to the fact that I've just found out a good friend has a terminal cancer diagnosis, and frankly, my tolerance for complete arseholes trying to shit all over the feminism section has just reached rock bottom.

So, I repeat. Just fuck off, you tosser.

I don't get how many people on this thread don't seem to get that it's not just about this incident. This man fundamentally HATES women.
Slag.
Cunt.
Deeply misogynistic, hate-filled words. The man is fucking coward and deserves to be shamed to the far ends of the country.

The “I know people....” isn’t on the face of it a threat to me, but if it’s used in England as a threat of physical violence, then ok.

Yes. It is.

The woman it happened to you said she felt in fear of violence, why was that not good enough to you?

And it's irrelevant what she did or did not say. He put her in fear of immediate physical violence - English law considers that common assault. There is no "the uppity woman pissed me off" defence.

This thread is just victim blaming. Normally it's rape victims, "what did she expect? Why did she wear that? I saw her flirt with him. She had sex with his friend, she would have had sex with him too. Maybe he thought she wanted it. She led him on. Why should I take her word for it? Let's not impugn the poor man's reputation. Why didn't she scream? I wouldn't class this as a real rape..." Today it's assault.

It is not relevant what she did or did not say to him. Men know they will get away with this shit because of people like those on this thread focusing on the actions of the victim instead of the perpetrator.

Shame.

Thank you Cara for saying what needed to be said about yet another fucker coming on here to say "she deserved it."

And sorry about your friend

Thanks for the flowers fleet.

@Olujan What makes you think the type of person I described wouldn't call his mum on public transport? My son calls me while hes doing his supermarket shop, so far nobody has followed him home to let him know they "know people".

Why do you think it's okay for a man to; A, evesdrop on a stranger's conversation. B, follow that person home to intimidate them.
How would you see that scenario ending if she hadn't been recording it bearing in mind he only stopped following her after he noticed she was recording him?

Cara I am sorry about your friend

The victim blaming is pretty shocking on a feminism thread.

I think that sometimes people want to think it's the victims fault as it means it could never happen to them.

I was upset seeing the video. I can empathise just how frightened she must have been.