I don't think this is transphobic

[Betty94]

Hi all,

I just wanted opinions really as I may be in the wrong but there was a lot of discussion on Poland and the abortion laws on Twitter and someone I follow retweeted a tweet from a man who said abortion is immoral blah blah and she quoted friends and said "no uterus no opinion" and personally I think even if you do have a uterus you can't really dictate what other people do but all of a sudden this person said she was being transphobic and it's trans hate to say that - I mean I didn't think it was, is it? I just feel like when anything's referred to women it's transphobic no matter what it is, trans women will never have to make the decision whether to have an abortion or not so I don't see how something regarding abortion can be transphobic - I thought I'd ask here as people are way more intelligent than me haha and can maybe explain if I'm wrong or not.

Thank you x

No it is definately not transphobic, trans people with a uterus are included.

I would think it was actually a trans-inclusive way to put it, as it makes no assumption of gender at all.

Surely its uterus carriers not women who have abortions?
Is this not the speech trans want us to have ffs.

No, it's not transphobic at all. Mysteriously, some people are very happy to use the term for no discernible reason.

Feel like TRAs are now just throwing the word transphobic around for fun. They cant find enough actual transphobic behaviour and are just desperately trying to make everything about them

Anything mildly womens rights based and they just cant cope. And its not an assualt on womens rights at all, oh no

What she said had precisely nothing to do with trans people. Except that it was a form of words which would include transmen and female 'nonbinaries' so was if anything 'transphilic'.

The rules are simple.

If a TRA or an Stonewall-approved organisation says "uterus haver" or something about people with uteruses and a woman complain, the woman is transphobic.

If a gender critical woman says "uterus haver" or something about people with uteruses, then TRAs can say that the woman is transphobic.

No. Not transphobic at all.

I just feel like when anything's referred to women it's transphobic no matter what it is

You’ve hit the nail on the head.

I’m in my sixties and I’ve now lost all patience with the bloody stupid virtue signalling of the young woke.
Screaming “transphobia” is the modern equivalent of screaming “blasphemer” at people who will not bow to your dogma.

Some people are just silly OP and best ignored, especially on Twitter.

you are completely right, OP, and hopefully this will show anyone who hasn't realised yet that transactivism is just an excuse to infringe on women's rights and interests
NB it's transactivism that is the problem, I'm sure there are plenty of trans people who perfectly well understand that the right to control your own body is especially important if you have a uterus, what with some trans people having uteruses.

Of course abortion and everything surrounding abortion is transphobic because transwomen can't have one to share the experience.

Just like everything else that relies on female biology.

I just feel like when anything's referred to women it's transphobic no matter what it is

Yup.

I never thought, being a baby feminist in the Women's Liberation movement in the 1970s, that simply to name female anatomy in 2020 would be seen as a such a social sin.

It's appalling, and you are absolutely right to be concerned about this, OP.

I agree it’s just silly. Ignore the squeaky ones.

I read your title and before I read the thread I thought "well, she's clearly wrong. Everything is transphobic."

wingsoverscotland.com/everything-is-transphobic/

The word is so overused by social media bullies on sad little power trips that it's basically meaningless.

They must be thinking it's transphobic as TW haven't got a uterus and you're telling them therefore they can't have an opinion when they feel they should be able to have the only an opinion

@NecessaryScene1

The rules are simple.

If a TRA or an Stonewall-approved organisation says "uterus haver" or something about people with uteruses and a woman complain, the woman is transphobic.

If a gender critical woman says "uterus haver" or something about people with uteruses, then TRAs can say that the woman is transphobic.

This.

100%

It’s like being in an abusive relationship - you can’t argue or discuss, goalposts change, it’s time wasting and distraction. Women should quit Twitter in disgust.

What ISN'T transphobic these days?

Why bother engage with idiots?

Anything about women (or female centric) is "maletransphobic".

Boo. Hoo.

"Transphobic" is as powerful as blancmange pinned to a door with a rusty nail.

I just automatically read it as a Rachel quote from Friends lol

@ImaSababa

What ISN'T transphobic these days?

Quite. Can't say woman, but can say vulva haver, cervix haver, etc. Can't say uterus haver? See above? So what can you say? It's all just deeply tiresome and inconsistent. It's a deliberate tactic to destabilise language.