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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Do you know any women in the Green Party?

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SkyRita · 04/11/2020 23:15

The Green Party of England & Wales have a group called Green Party Women which is currently one of the few groups that are more dedicated to green issues and not just from a women's perspective.

Most women in the GP are unaware that this group exists and have not joined. As the systems and power-base are stacked against feminists and GC members, there have been increasing numbers of attempts to dscredit and oust the current committee.

Could I ask feminists on MN to ask friends, colleagues and acquaintances if they know any women who are in the GPEW? We need all women to apply for membership of Green Party Women by tomorrow, Thursday 5th November, to ensure that they have a vote in the committee elections due to start soon. There are so many women who have expressed disquiet about the toxic push within the GP in favour of identity politics and abandonment of climate and environmental issues, and feel they have no opportunity to input to the direction of policy. This is their chance to have their say.

Here is a link for existing members to join:-
women.greenparty.org.uk/contact/?fbclid=IwAR2BG1SAj-Svab2DhMOWEYIFRufhj_0flkR4U-Qs75og5eoqrF2ShZ5zLtE#:~:text=Green%20Party%20Women%20is%20an%20affiliate%20group%20of,workplace%2C%20the%20work%20women%20do%20is%20often%20undervalued
Thanks all!

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InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud · 05/11/2020 01:12

Is this the same group who said they were happy to have us called non men? .... if I am wrong please forgive me

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/feminists-mock-green-party-young-women-s-invite-non-men-a6987061.html%3famp

papersmith · 05/11/2020 05:37

Bump, yes have joined.

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 05/11/2020 06:33

Thank you, yes I’m in already. WHEN do we actually get to vote, after that last fiasco??!

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 05/11/2020 06:36

By the way I emailed them about my GC views and got a surprisingly positive email back...can’t remember exactly what it said, but not a complete you-are-a-terf brush off. Possibly because I said I worked for a rising star GreenTech company, which I do!

SlipperyLizard · 05/11/2020 09:49

I (carefully!) discussed women’s rights on Facebook with my local Green candidate a couple of years ago. She has totally drunk the Kool Aid so there’s no point asking her. To me, the Greens are a lost cause.

SkyRita · 05/11/2020 14:18

The Geens are dominated by a few infiltrators who are the powerbase of the leadership who cannot go against them as they will lose their positions. The vast majority of the membership are extremely angry about the lack of interest in climate change etc and obsession with gender politics.

The only way we can deal with this is to oust them and then the Greens can get on with what they need to do - save the planet from burning.

Honestly, we are not a lost cause. I have attended countless local meetings where the members are openly angry about the obsession with gender politics and they have reported this back to the centre Party, to no avail. At a few meetings, a transwoman joined us from a different area and controlled the dialogue by claiming to be offended and triggered at everything, turning every Agenda item around to themselves and about what we were going to do for trans people. It was completely pathetic. This person didn't have a green atom in their body.
So many of the local candidates have swallowed the Kool-Aid that it's an uphill struggle for the rest of us. If we speak out, we are under party disciplinary proceedings, however the opposition operates with complete impunity and have even managed to manipulate the disciplinary process to have their cases dropped. A friend of mine raised a serious complaint against one of the senior party members (who is pushing the trans agenda obsessively) and the case was never recorded at all.

We just need some extra help in regaining control of the GPEW and ensure it is directed down the path for which the membership joined. All help is received very gratefully.

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SkyRita · 05/11/2020 14:33

[quote InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud]Is this the same group who said they were happy to have us called non men? .... if I am wrong please forgive me

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/feminists-mock-green-party-young-women-s-invite-non-men-a6987061.html%3famp[/quote]
No forgiveness necessary and the answer is yes and no. It is currently the same group but under different committee leadership. Not all of the women in the group at that time had drunk the KoolAid but they were forced to agree with the controlling group.

I agree completely with the article, Caroline is excellent and spelling it out exactly as it was. Unfortunately, so much of the BS still applies and we need to sort it out once and for always.
The latest committee is attempting to turn Green Party Women around on this and to concentrate on green issues, with a slant on women - how to support women to enter politics, period poverty, misogyny that they have experienced etc. They are required by the party system to include males who identify as women, as they have no way of doing otherwise.
All we want to do is to leave identity politics behind and deal with environmental problems and the future of the planet. The group who are about to stand against the current committee are promoting intersectional and inclusive womenhood, where males will be welcomed and indeed dominate women's spaces and rights. Fuck no.

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SkyRita · 05/11/2020 14:34

@ChoosandChipsandSealingWax

Thank you, yes I’m in already. WHEN do we actually get to vote, after that last fiasco??!
I have no information yet about when the voting will commence I believe this will be fairly soon. You will receive a ballot by email, as the last time.
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Socrates11 · 05/11/2020 15:25

Surprised myself by joining as been so pissed off by Green woke behaviour & refusal/inability to understand the implications of safeguarding arising from all the Challenor bullshit. Wanted to show solidarity to the Green women (& men) having to fight this bloody unscientific nonsense...#SexMatters

Not sure I can ever vote for the current crop of wokesters & still not reconciled myself to Lucas having swallowed the nonsense... but in to support the GPW group who do understand biology.

Toomie · 05/11/2020 15:38

I'm a member and just followed the link in the OP.
It seems to be a link to sign up to their email list rather than become a member?
I have filled in the form but just wanted to check as it doesn't seem as though the form in that page is fir membership of Green Party Women. Can anyone confirm?

SkyRita · 05/11/2020 16:39

Try this one - could you tell me if it works, thanks?
women.greenparty.org.uk/?fbclid=IwAR28WpxXG7Y_5A-kx3L1vEuOPiflz3wyRxMmz_PL6iyork_i3izfysyqI7w

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Toomie · 05/11/2020 16:58

@SkyRita
Thanks for the link. It appears to go to the same sign up page.

Having looked at it again, I think it is the right one.

It does say 'Join Green Party Women'

However, it also says in bold 'Anyone can sign up to our email list - you don't have to be a member of the Green Party'. So it's not clear what you are signing up for by filling in details.

I think it's fine. Just not very clear 🤷🏻‍♀️

SkyRita · 05/11/2020 17:15

Thanks @Toomie, I'm sure there are lots more than this that's not clear Grin.
They do accept others from outside the Party, but these 'observers' don't have voting rights. I'm not sure why this is the case and if other political parties do this too, but it might be something to be considered by the committee although imo, it's not a bad thing as we should be transparent. Men can join GPW too but also only as 'observers'. I'm not so sure about this being a good idea but will have to think on that.

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papersmith · 05/11/2020 19:35

I have to say, I know more GC women locally and through feminist groups now that any other party which is why I joined.

Despite the forward facing woke crap vibe, there's a lot of hardworking dedicated women who know exactly what a woman is, behind the scenes.

papersmith · 05/11/2020 19:36

*More more GC Green Party members who are women

Pickette · 06/11/2020 13:17

[quote InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud]Is this the same group who said they were happy to have us called non men? .... if I am wrong please forgive me

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/feminists-mock-green-party-young-women-s-invite-non-men-a6987061.html%3famp[/quote]
I had to double check as I thought this was the same story, but apparently the US Green Party also believes in erasing women. I guess the grass isn't always Greener on the other side...

ovarit.com/o/Cancelled/8172/oct-2020-green-party-national-women-s-caucus-bans-feminists-from-discussion

SkyRita · 06/11/2020 14:52

@Pickette it's horrendous everywhere and the majority voices are silenced. The tactics used are wicked and I can't believe how easily they've managed to do this.

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SkyRita · 06/11/2020 16:32

UPDATE

I believe that the applications to join have not yet been closed off although this may be the case by either Saturday 7/11 or Sunday 8/11.
Please continue to encourage Green women to join the Green Party Women's group.

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ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 07/12/2020 17:46

BUMP I think the deadline to vote is today (need to check that but bumping anyway!)

CrossPurposes · 07/12/2020 18:02

It's the nominations that close at 23.59 tonight.

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 07/12/2020 22:56

Also it seemed to me from that we need to reregister ourselves to actually be able to vote?? They are NOT making this easy!!!!

SkyRita · 09/12/2020 00:40

It's because so many men decided they were entitled to vote in the GPW elections. Of course they would think that. Women are allowed nothing of their own.

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highame · 09/12/2020 09:00

I am at a loss. We keep getting similar threads about the GP. Always the assurance that if we join, we can make it all go away. Not so far as I can see. Lost cause methinks. would love to be proved wrong but it's a lost cause

SkyRita · 10/12/2020 01:02

If I thought it was definitely a lost cause, I would have left too. I don't think there are any guarantees, but the situation is moving in the right direction.
We need anyone who knows women in the Green Party, to let pass on the information that they do need to vote in the upcoming elections. The full details of the slates (which are slightly different now) will be posted when the voting opens.
All help is very constructive.

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WeAreGerbil · 10/12/2020 07:29

The current committee are great and know what a woman is, though they've inherited a lot of nonsense that they haven't so far been able to change because of Party rules. There is a TWAW slate of candidates challenging them, not all female. It is a mess but like everywhere there are some great people working for change, and if everyone gives up and goes home that leaves us nowhere.