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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS on Twitter

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KurriKawari · 02/11/2020 23:46

"People with vaginas"? So can we also say "people with penises"?

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PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 15:14

Fantastic point Pear!

That question deserves it's own thread.

Aesopfable · 03/11/2020 15:16

@PearPickingPorky

When we start talking about subgroups of women do we still have to do the genital thing?

Muslims with vaginas?

Lesbians with vaginas?

Vagina'd ethnic minorities?

Of course not! That would be exclusionary.
lockdownlegend · 03/11/2020 15:45

So in the midst of a global pandemic THIS is what "people with NHS jobs" (see what I did there) are paid to do?

Flapjak · 03/11/2020 15:59

If i am a person with a vagina, then (most) transwomen are people with penises! Wouldnt want to offend anyone by labelling them by their sex or gender identity . We need to start a petition to get this ratified in parliament.

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 16:22

"People with penises are going to watch a football match whilst their partners stay at home".

"People with penises are wanted for forklift jobs in West London. Must have licence".

"People with penises wanted for questionnaire"

"Ejaculators wanted for study into urban farm practices".

"Ejaculators wanted for medical study".

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 16:27

"Muslim ejaculators wanted for study into religious practices in West London".

"Ideas and opinions sought from people with penises into the work practices of barristers in London and Manchester".

"Gay models with penises sought for council advertising campaign".

yourhairiswinterfire · 03/11/2020 16:35

@Flapjak

If i am a person with a vagina, then (most) transwomen are people with penises! Wouldnt want to offend anyone by labelling them by their sex or gender identity . We need to start a petition to get this ratified in parliament.
Well exactly. They're supposedly degrading us for the benefit of transmen and non binary people, which suggests that demographic are happy with this (even though a vagina is exclusive to females and we're told female terms like 'woman' and 'mother' are triggering yet vagina somehow isn't, but that's the woowoo logic for you.)

But can you actually imagine referring to a transman/woman in person like this? "Excuse me, you there-the person with the vagina/penis, come here please." Hell would be raised, I'm sure, but when it comes to being downright rude to women, we just have to suck it up.

I would have thought transman and transwoman would be much more dignified terms, but apparently not. So from now on, I'll refer to transwomen as people with penises and transmen as people with vaginas, whilst the rest of us can get on with being women and men. They want to be disrespectful, let's do it, I'll fucking play.

Flapjak · 03/11/2020 17:10

Lets play winterfire
Lollipop person with a vagina/penis
Police person with a penis / vagina
Fireperson with a penis/vagina

Mum to child, "go and ask that nice person with a penis something or other...

We should also rename all songs / films whilst we are at..
Person with a vagina in red
Shes/her a person with a peniseater

Popstars
Person with a vagina gaga
Anyone care to add to the list ?

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 17:24

The people with penises England football team.

The people with penises Scotland football team.

The people....

yourhairiswinterfire · 03/11/2020 17:27

The president's wife is The First Person With A Vagina Grin

Julia Roberts in Pretty Person With A Vagina.

Johnny Cash was the Person With A Penis In Black.

Mamma Mia! is henceforth Birthing Parent Mia!

Whitney Houston "I'm Every Person With A Vagina, it's all in meee".

The Kinks lyrics- "People with penises will be people with vaginas, and people with vaginas will be people with penises, it's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world"... doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

Bohemian Rhapsody Lyrics. "Birthing Parent, ooh ooh ooooooh, I don't wanna die".

yourhairiswinterfire · 03/11/2020 17:30

I totally got the Kinks 'people withs' the wrong way there. I'm mixed up and muddled up indeed Grin

Flapjak · 03/11/2020 17:36

Brilliant winterfire!!

When we write these down, we can see they are only targeting anything that is related to women and their healthcare needs and experience of being a mother.

WarOnWomen · 03/11/2020 17:40

Okay, so how and where do I complain?

Cinderellashoes · 03/11/2020 17:47

Teen Vogue - Many vagina owners love anal play.

Vagina owners. Confused

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 17:50

War

The Minister for Health.

The Department for Health.

Maybe send the link to newspapers and highlight the issue. The poplular red tops ie The Sun/Mirror.

The DMail/Express.

Telegraph and The Times. The Sunday Times.

People who are good at highlighting these issues on Twitter.

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PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 17:51

The other pathway is to the NHS complaints department directly.

www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/about-the-nhs/how-to-complain-to-the-nhs/

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 17:53

The Minister for Health.

MP Edward Argar.

www.gov.uk/government/people/edward-argar

ContessaDiPulpo · 03/11/2020 17:54

I don't even understand the people with vaginas thing. You can construct a vagina surgically so females or males can have them Confused

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 17:57

No. You cannot.

ContessaDiPulpo · 03/11/2020 18:02

Well admittedly neovaginas, but still...

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 18:05

Inverted penises are not vaginas.

Do you actually know the shape, size and function of the vagina?

Ohnonononononono · 03/11/2020 18:05

@ContessaDiPulpo

I don't even understand the people with vaginas thing. You can construct a vagina surgically so females or males can have them Confused
Women who identify as trans men is the gap you're missing.
ContessaDiPulpo · 03/11/2020 18:10

I generally assume that people with vaginas includes women and transmen; my point is that you could also describe some males as having vaginas, albeit surgically constructed ones.

I wish they would say female, but that seems to have been mixed up with the gender cult and doesn't always mean a biologically observable thing

twoglassesofprosecco · 03/11/2020 18:19

The original tweet has "virginity" in quotes. Why? Do Teen Vogue and the NHS not believe in virginity? Is it a silly concept?

PurpleHoodie · 03/11/2020 18:22

No. Males do not, and can not have effective vaginas.

Nor a clitoros.

Or vulva.

They may have a cut up and inverted penis. But none of the womens reproductive system.