LGB Alliance Ireland launched (getting lots of flack)

[GrainneMhaol]

Hi everyone, LGB Alliance Ireland launched this week. This is their twitter page twitter.com/Ire_LGBAlliance?s=09

They've got a lot of flack about them being British T**fs bring their hateful ideas to Ireland etc. (Infecting our poor sweet innocent Irish colleens with their British ideas That is the tone of the reaction).

Some of the replies here will give you an idea of the hyperbolic reaction, and also the quote tweets
twitter.com/Ire_LGBAlliance/status/1320845845810597888?s=19

Unsurprisingly Pink News and Gay Community News (like an Irish version of Pink News) have run with the evil Brits line.

Archived link to Pink News article
archive.is/80c5B#selection-705.0-707.183

Gay Community News archived article
archive.is/6g8ND

Just to clarify I'm not involved directly with the Alliance but support it.

Good luck. It's fantastic to see how many countries now have their own LGB Alliance groups.

twitter.com/qu4rantinedre4m/status/1321467556541177858

Honestly

Focusing on LGB people rather than the T, is hate.

Yes great to see all the international LGB groups spriging up.

Yes the rage that the LGB's might have their own group. And these people think they are progressive.

So we have England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales.

Excellent news.

Following them on Twitter. Some of the reactions are 😳. Hopeful for something similar in the north 🤞

By something similar, I meant a similar group.

I was booted from twitter (no explanation given but I think it was for objecting to male sex offenders in women's prisons). Before I went I did notice a big uptick in Irish GC twitter accounts.

Very pleased to to see voices getting louder.

Great to see. More power to you all.

All the best to LGB Alliance Ireland! Really glad to see so many groups springing up.
I guess the hostility is inevitable. Don't let them wear you down!

So if a transman Is in a relationship with a woman and does not consider themself a lesbian what do they have in common with LGB people? Any more than I, as a heterosexual woman has?
By the logic a transwomen in relationship with a man has no more need of inclusion in LGB groups than I do.
And do the trans only groups agree they are homophobic if they only support transpeople?
Again, rhetorical.

I was on the phone to a relation of mine (mid sixties) last night. One of her sons is gay. I was explaining the concept of how a LGB group is being criticised as a hate group, and that me, who has always leaned towards left learning politics is classified as alt right by certain quarters. She was horrified.

It's good to see that same sex attracted people in Ireland have a group dedicated to them again

what the hell same sex attracted people EVER had in common with people who seek to identify as the opposite sex, I'll never know

I don’t understand this idea that questioning and criticism of transgender ideology is bad because it's a British thing (British meaning English, let's be honest). I thought one reason Ireland resisted abortion, contraception and homosexuality for so long was because they were seen as nasty, English Protestant things that go against the teachings of the Catholic Church, and the Church was central to the founding of the Irish Republic. Yet the same voices that are celebrating the growing acceptance in Ireland of homosexuality (despite Ireland having decriminalised it about 25 years after England and Wales and then at the behest of the European Courts) and legalisation of abortion (over half a century after its legalisation in England and Wales) are now cheering trans ideology as being similarly progressive and liberal and us Brits with our gender critical ideas are the stuffy, conservative, repressive ones. It makes no sense to me.

It’s flak.

They are getting lots of flak because the move is potentially dangerous for trans activists. They greatly benefit from several different causes being lumped together because the size of the group they represent is also very small. So from that angle the flak is very understandable.

One of the inherent contradictions between the goals of the LGB- and the T-parts is that the latter wants to rewrite the definition of what being gay, Lesbian or bi means so that it is all based on either gender identity or gender expression, not the kinds of bodies someone is sexually drawn to. This then results in the kinds of arguments within the movement that once were seen as the worst kind of homophobia. For instance, that one should get over attraction to certain kinds of genitals.

The hatred of LGB alliance is quite clearly because TRAs want to hide behind LGB people. Apparently the selfID shit in Ireland was basically hidden in with equal marriage

They know they have no argument on their own merits. Have to tag onto some other group else they know what they (stonewall, TRAs and such, not 'all traspeople' ) demand will NOT be popular with the public at all.

Sorry nepeta, I basically repeated your post but with different wording

NRatched that shows how great minds think alike.

Ah way.

All the angry men in the comments....

@2020wumben

Following them on Twitter. Some of the reactions are 😳. Hopeful for something similar in the north 🤞

I think LGB Alliance is for the whole island of Ireland, both North and South. I read a few tweets that said they have members all over the island.

The abuse they got is despicable but it is heartening to see people rise up against the changes that have been sneaked in in Ireland.

It is for the whole Island of Ireland it seems.

Good on them.

Oh that's great, thanks for pointing that out. Will keep an eye on what they are up to.

Does always seem to be the exact same people running each LGBA account. You can't help but raise an eyebrow at the number of followers they (on the first official Twitter account) supposedly have, when their interactions are tiny to non existent. No-one i know has ever heard of them, and they've been at it for what.. two years? I wonder if Fanshawe is still involved, there always seems to be some other guy (Malcolm?) who runs it. I've no idea who he is either.

The name doesn't help, sounds like a naff building society from the 80s.

@Lisz

Does always seem to be the exact same people running each LGBA account. You can't help but raise an eyebrow at the number of followers they (on the first official Twitter account) supposedly have, when their interactions are tiny to non existent. No-one i know has ever heard of them, and they've been at it for what.. two years? I wonder if Fanshawe is still involved, there always seems to be some other guy (Malcolm?) who runs it. I've no idea who he is either.

The name doesn't help, sounds like a naff building society from the 80s.

They've been going just under a year.

They have more interactions than Mermaids and Fawcett.

Everyone I know engaged in this movement - on either side - has heard of them.

No ineffective movement would engender that level of resentment.