FiLia/Womens Place/Fairplay for Women joins statement re Womens Hour 20/10/20

[TheClitterati]

"Today, 20th Oct, BBC Woman's Hour hosted an excellent discussion on the politicization of Mumsnet with feminist scholar Sarah Pederson (at approx 25mins). The discussion looked at the growth of the popular Mumsnet feminist discussion boards and their role in promoting a nascent women's movement advocating women's rights, in particular informing discussion on GRA reform.

Womans Place UK, Fair Play for Women and FiLiA were highlighted as groups popular with and representative of women's rights issues. At this point Jane Garvey, the BBC presenter felt it necessary to interject "we have to be clear, which are groups that some people have describe, in some circumstances, as transphobic".

FiLiA, FPFW and WPUK are not transphobic. It is not acceptable for a BBC journalist to repeat libellous comment about us as if it is fair comment or a balancing of the discussion. There is simply no basis in fact for this comment to be made. It is the repetition of misogynist slander to which too many women are subjected.

These comments are seriously prejudicial to the reputations of women involved with these organisations, some of whom have previously been invited on the programme. We urge BBC Woman's Hour to correct this inaccurate reporting and we would like to thank Sarah Pederson for her excellent and informative analysis of the feminist phenomenon that is Mumsnet."

FiLiA, WPUK and Fair Play For Women

filia.org.uk/resources/2020/10/20/statement-on-comments-made-by-bbc-womans-hour?fbclid=IwAR3MH9ri1CTdkOdW0CTMwyKmeloEnTeddd3k503vnyenIb1NeTy65O6MYgo

just beat me to it

many people feel the earth is flat - should radio presenters bring this up every time someone mentions that the world is round?

Is the womens/feminist POV raised by radio presenters every time "trans rights" are mentioned? like fuck it is.

I'm more and more inclined to think the BBC have been well and truly "institutionally captured" at every level. And its very bloody worrying.

@FindTheTruth

just beat me to it

its not like me to be so on the ball

Yes!

This is an excellent thread on this and other complaints about unfounded accusations to journalists, twitter and the Liberal Democrats

twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1318491105525190658

It's the producers forcing this dreadful so called "balance" on the presenters as Jenni Murray has pointed out. They are biased against the groups mentioned.

I hope they make an official complaint - it would be good seeing the BBC trying to justify it and addressing the issue.

I think balance is important. So every time Jane mentions Women's Hour could she say 'which some people, some, think are a bunch of craven cunts'?

Good statement.

Some people call adulterers satanic spawn - the BBC is not obliged to remind listeners of every nonsensical, unproven smear ever made.

If they have any evidence of transphobia, bring it out and show it. Otherwise, drop it.

As people said in another thread - they don't feel the need to say "Stonewall, who some say are homophobic"

• Female people having rights is not transphobic. This is an extremist view based on misogyny and sexual discrimination that the BBC as a public funded, publicly responsible body should not be legitimising. Can you imagine them adding a proviso to anything that essentially says: some people believe that disabled people having rights or BAME people having rights is whateverphobic?

• If this is going to be excused as 'balance' then as mentioned many times today, any reference to Stonewall will have to be balanced with 'which some LGBT+people believe to be misogynistic and homophobic to the point that original founders split the organisation and created the LGB Alliance' and any reference to the BBC will have to be balanced with 'which some people believe to be politically biased and captured by an anti-woman political lobby'.

One or the other. Pick. If the second is chosen, then I'll have my licence fee back please, and will be explaining to the other 51% of female BBC funders how they can do the same. No taxation without representation.

Well done Womans Place UK, Fair Play for Women and FiLiA. It's not acceptable for Woman's Hour to throw around these unjustified accusations.

Aye.

I'll have my licence fee back please, and will be explaining to the other 51% of female BBC funders how they can do the same. No taxation without representation.

Definitely what I am thinking. Should have done this two years ago.

They should really pursue this.

the BBC is not obliged to remind listeners of every nonsensical, unproven smear ever made

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I do think that this could finally be the one that is definitely worth pursuing.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if Woman's Hour pointed out who, out of all the organisations they discuss, was misogynistic. Far more relevant to the programme.

It's clear bias. Did they tell the nuns that there are some people who don't believe in God? No? Why not?

Outrageous! I hope this will prompt more women to support these brilliant advocacy groups. Some of them are crowdfunding right now. Without them, who's speaking for women?

@EvenSupposing

It's clear bias. Did they tell the nuns that there are some people who don't believe in God? No? Why not?

Well, precisely. It would be like throwing a comment to the nuns "Of course, we should say that many people think that nuns are usually harbouring evil secret practices like child sacrifice and being inhabited by the demons of succubi." which would similarly unsubstantiated and irrelevant to the topic at hand.

I just had to check the plural of succubus. My advertising algorithms will be entertaining for a bit.

I think it’s off when UKIP had so much BBC coverage and they never included the caveat that some people have described them in some situations as racist little-englanders.

I do hope they pursue this, it is repeating unsubstantiated accusations which are defamatory.

I would donate to legal action.
I am so fed up with the BBC.