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Waiting for the men - Wings over Scotland

67 replies

AvocadoBathroom · 18/10/2020 19:59

wingsoverscotland.com/waiting-for-the-men/

Great article about the Mridul Wadhwa.

OP posts:
Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 20/10/2020 08:42

@AvocadoBathroom

Should I not have posted it? I can ask admin to delete it?
I don't see why. All the info is public and it is a shocker of a case!
PopperUppleton · 20/10/2020 08:58

But who appointed this person? It's not only their fault. They shouldn't have applied, granted, but who appointed them?

IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 20/10/2020 14:31

@AvocadoBathroom

Should I not have posted it? I can ask admin to delete it?

Please don't get it deleted.

I now about that site you linked to. Thank you.

IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 20/10/2020 14:33

Should've said - I now know about that site.

(I like the cut of his gyb.)

IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 20/10/2020 14:34

Fuck me - jib!

lucylucky1977 · 20/10/2020 15:19

@IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2

Fuck me - jib!
He can be a bit mental, and he’s no supporter of JKR, he’s been horrible to her in the past about wanting to stay in the union, but this article is clear, and I also saw this one where he defends her against the hate crime bill. wingsoverscotland.com/jail-time-for-joanne/
NecessaryScene1 · 20/10/2020 15:24

He was great on Twitter, and he continues to be great on his blog. His readers are there for the Scottish independence, but they're getting a good hard helping of Gender Critical on the side:

wingsoverscotland.com/compulsory-conciliation/
wingsoverscotland.com/darwins-failures/
wingsoverscotland.com/fannies-by-gaslight/

ArabellaScott · 20/10/2020 15:56

I found Wings' commentary on Scottish independence fascinating. As I said, it was sometimes shocking, but whenever I checked the references, it seemed to be accurate.

Quite pleased - and somewhat surprised - to see him support gc principles.

GRA reform/gende seems to be one of those subjects where only the more thrawn, awkward and prickly, not to mention perceptive, questioning and intelligent, of observers were quickest to see the impending problems. Many people seem able to live with amazing amounts of cognitive dissonance (I include myself in that number, fwiw, it took me a wee while to really fathom what was going on.)

It takes a good deal of strength of mind to question and go against the prevailing tide of opinion. I really admire those who have that ability. I imagine it's far from easy.

NecessaryScene1 · 20/10/2020 16:24

I've seen quite a lot of analysis recently (of Woke more generally) which has come to a similar conclusion.

If you're someone who finds it important to be liked, you are going to be much more susceptible to going along with nonsense if it becomes fashionable. Someone clearly bolshie and bloody-minded, used to being disliked by some, like that character Stuart Campbell, is not going to give it the time of day.

His level of commitment is impressive though - the nonsense clearly offends him at a visceral level. Or I guess it's maybe his anti-authoritarian instincts kicking in - he has more scorn for the people using the nonsense as a means to power than for the nonsense itself.

Two of my other favourite old-time (remember Iraq?) bolshies are Andrew Sullivan and Glenn Greenwald. Been interested to see where they were. Sullivan is happily 110% GC, loudly.

Greenwald is taking his time, but he seems to be getting there - he was taken aback by the attacks on his hero Navratilova, and wrote a long article about that, and he had a sane video discussion about the ridiculous Spotify employees-versus-Joe Rogan & Abigail Shrier thing. If he doesn't ultimately go full GC, it'll be a sign he's gone soft.

PS here's one of my favourite pieces on the theme by Louise Perry:

Are Contemporary Feminists Too Agreeable?

ArabellaScott · 20/10/2020 16:42

Interesting article.

I wonder if female agreeableness is often a survival tactic - closely allied to submissiveness.

PearPickingPorky · 21/10/2020 08:13

It sounds like the Hustings in Argyll and Bute didn't go to plan for Rhianon Spear.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/10/2020 08:17

That's surprising given what I have seen in twitter about the hustings being micromanaged by the NEC. Must have been dire if she came across badly despite the NEC protection.

ArabellaScott · 21/10/2020 08:49

Has Spear any connection to A&B? I find it a touch odd that someone living in Glasgow would stand for a remote rural seat.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/10/2020 08:53

I think she lived there as a child?

Igneococcus · 21/10/2020 08:57

In the OT article it says that she is originally from Bute.

PearPickingPorky · 21/10/2020 09:42

Apparently Spear was going for the Glasgow Cathcart seat which the NEC (which Spear sits on) had decided to change into a woman-only seat. But then James Dornan, the (sensible, rational, well-liked) incumbent, challenge that decision and it was overturned. Knowing she had no hope in a fair run against Dornan, she decided she would go for A&B, where she was born (but apparently spends, and intends to spend, no time there).

Think that's an accurate summary.

PearPickingPorky · 21/10/2020 09:47

It seems to me (as a non-member observing the twitter discussion from members) as though the SNP members are fed up with entryist, self-promoting wokists with no interest in Independence, and making that known. The Woke NEC is furiously scrambling to keep changing the rules to keep their grip on who gets selected. Lots of the formerly-woke are sensing the change, and so are pretending to take an "I'm listening to both sides on GRA reform" stance, because they know that GRA is not popular. The idea is to not commit or make a big deal of GRA until they are safely in position and then can impose it next year.

ArabellaScott · 21/10/2020 10:24

Thanks, Igneo & Pear. 'Entryist' seems about right. I don't pretend to know what's going on with the internal warring of the SNP, but it's really souring my opinion of the party. I know some good people in the SNP, not sure they know what's going on, either. Power struggles, I suppose.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 21/10/2020 12:22

@PearPickingPorky

It sounds like the Hustings in Argyll and Bute didn't go to plan for Rhianon Spear.
What happened? I saw she's kicking off about awful divisive people - which takes some nerve as she's spent much of the past 2 years (at least) demonising women who disagree with her.

I seem to recall she came close to libel with Stephanie Davies-Arai.

Also, I see Teddy has started up again...

andyoldlabour · 21/10/2020 12:52

I cannot see any reason why Mridal should not be sacked innediately, as they got this job through clear deception.
It is also very revealing that a man got the job by deliberately deceiving them.

ArabellaScott · 21/10/2020 13:20

As far as I can make out, Alice, Rhiannon Spear tweeted something like anyone that doesn't agree with her is far-right. Which'll obviously go down well.

PotholeParadies · 22/10/2020 14:38

I can't remember where it was, but there was a Scottish woman who said her daughter hadn't been able to access rape counselling this year, because the requested female counsellor turned out to be a transwoman. I'm sure she said that this was in the Forth Valley. Maybe I'm putting 2+2 together and making 5, but that fits with the CV of the person in the OP.

In other news, the SNP needs to sort itself out. Yesterday, this happened.

As anyone who isn't performatively woke can tell at a glance, the questioner had read "trans man" and thought MtF, and so was confused how a MtF could have endometriosis.

As the conversation developed, it turned out the questioner was a 71 year old man, and here he was, being lambasted for not understanding the new vocabulary already.

Waiting for the men - Wings over Scotland
Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 22/10/2020 15:49

@ArabellaScott

As far as I can make out, Alice, Rhiannon Spear tweeted something like anyone that doesn't agree with her is far-right. Which'll obviously go down well.
Ah wen't to look. She has some nerve accusing others of being divisive! As far as I can see she is constantly (and sanctimoniously) lecturing other women.
Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 22/10/2020 15:50

*went

Not sure how stray apostrophe got in!

Antibles · 22/10/2020 16:36

@PopperUppleton

But who appointed this person? It's not only their fault. They shouldn't have applied, granted, but who appointed them?
Either someone thrilled to have such a diverse candidate, or someone who invited them for interview and then crapped themselves at the social and career beartrap awaiting them if they dared to turn them down on the obvious grounds...