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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police in Devon crack down on Hate Crime against Tomatoes

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Melroses · 13/10/2020 21:50

#tomatoesAin'tNoFruit Confused

twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1316110046263234562

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FairFriday · 14/10/2020 13:37

Maybe it was some children who wrote and created this? Not an agency charging £££££.

We can only hope...

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 14/10/2020 13:45

I think this could almost have made sense as an analogy. A tomato is technically a fruit, just like a Transwoman is technically a male, but in a real world context it makes more sense to include a tomato as a vegetable and it makes more sense to include a Transwoman as a woman. Knowledge is knowing that a Transwoman is a male, wisdom is not forcing her to use the male facilties. That isn't what I believe BTW, but as an analogy I don't think it's that bad. However, 2 very important things. Firstly the "hate crime" in the animation includes the tomato being laughed at for wanting to go in the fruit bowl, and the vandal graffiting "tomatos ain't no fruit" on the wall. This makes it sound like the tomato is sad because it wants to be accepted as a fruit and not a vegetable, which is the opposite of the way the analogy should make sense. We'd like it if the tomato was accepted as a fruit, ie if the Transwoman was accepted as a male. The "Tomatoes ain't know fruit" graffiti is the equivalent of "transwomen ain't men", which clearly isn't what they mean, so the whole things ends up as a stupud jumbled mess. Secondly, until we live in a world where vegetables are being murdered by fruit at a rate of 3-5 a week, and have been oppressed by fruit for millennia, to the point that we need specific veg only spaces to protect them, then we can have a conversation about whether tomatoes should be allowed to self ID out of the fruit catagory. Until then, it's not exactly the same situation is it! But I'm real glad that the police are spending time and money trying to convince women to give up our legal protections, rather than spending it on tackling the thing we need protecting from, fruit on veg male on female violence. Idiots.

FairFriday · 14/10/2020 13:48

But a tomato is a fruit. I may be being picky here but it just is... a fruit. Can’t eat it with custard but there you are.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/10/2020 14:17

In what fucking world is that the definition of 'sex'? I actually think that's one of the worst things i've seen. Arbitrary definitions of words.

It's the definition of "sex" where sex is a social construct and gender identity reigns supreme. "Sex is the way a person's body appears, sometimes wrongly, to show their gender" Confused postmodernist Butler TRA gobbledegook.

highame · 14/10/2020 14:59

I like the fact that D & C police have a sense of humour and I hope they'll still be laughing when residents refuse to pay that portion of their council tax in protest at the waste of money in these critical times. Nice isn't it Grin

RiotAndAlarum · 15/10/2020 07:11

People are LAUGHING at the police. This really isn't good.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 15/10/2020 08:16

I just read it as that the Tomato was confused about whether it was a fruit or a vegetable. It doesn't make the point clear at all.

Plus, 'fruit' has long been a euphemism for 'gay' (and sometimes lesbian) - is the lemon saying that the tomato is not gay?

FairFriday · 15/10/2020 08:20

I say it’s rather fruitest against lemons. I like lemon.

EvenSupposing · 15/10/2020 14:56

@ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings

I think this could almost have made sense as an analogy. A tomato is technically a fruit, just like a Transwoman is technically a male, but in a real world context it makes more sense to include a tomato as a vegetable and it makes more sense to include a Transwoman as a woman. Knowledge is knowing that a Transwoman is a male, wisdom is not forcing her to use the male facilties. That isn't what I believe BTW, but as an analogy I don't think it's that bad. However, 2 very important things. Firstly the "hate crime" in the animation includes the tomato being laughed at for wanting to go in the fruit bowl, and the vandal graffiting "tomatos ain't no fruit" on the wall. This makes it sound like the tomato is sad because it wants to be accepted as a fruit and not a vegetable, which is the opposite of the way the analogy should make sense. We'd like it if the tomato was accepted as a fruit, ie if the Transwoman was accepted as a male. The "Tomatoes ain't know fruit" graffiti is the equivalent of "transwomen ain't men", which clearly isn't what they mean, so the whole things ends up as a stupud jumbled mess. Secondly, until we live in a world where vegetables are being murdered by fruit at a rate of 3-5 a week, and have been oppressed by fruit for millennia, to the point that we need specific veg only spaces to protect them, then we can have a conversation about whether tomatoes should be allowed to self ID out of the fruit catagory. Until then, it's not exactly the same situation is it! But I'm real glad that the police are spending time and money trying to convince women to give up our legal protections, rather than spending it on tackling the thing we need protecting from, fruit on veg male on female violence. Idiots.
See, at the risk if sounding like a Marxist analysis of Thomas the Tank Engine, I think you have that the wrong way round. Surely the tomato is a fruit but it has been wrongly assumed (assigned? At birth?) to be a vegetable.

So the message is actually that TW (tomatoes) are really really women (fruit) and we just need to look beyond the cock and balls (tendency to hang out in salads and savoury sauces).

Which I think is even a bit more bonkers than the other way.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/10/2020 02:46

So the message is actually that TW (tomatoes) are really really women (fruit) and we just need to look beyond the cock and balls (tendency to hang out in salads and savoury sauces).

Yes I think you are right with that interpretation. The lemon graffitiing "tomatoes ain't no fruit" is a woman putting up "women don't have penises" stickers from the perspective of a genderistConfused

Aesopfable · 16/10/2020 08:29

It is what is supposed to be an impartial police force promoting a political agenda and working for one group of people against the legal rights and needs of another.

TheGreatWave · 18/10/2020 16:24

Interesting that only after it was slated was it revealed to be a university student project, so happy to take credit until they realised they had read the room completely wrong.

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