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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Shout out to Mumsnet from Posie P

38 replies

queenofknives · 24/09/2020 20:15

Very nice thanks to ordinary women who've been working away on this in the background. Mentions a couple of Mumsnetters by name.

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Melroses · 24/09/2020 20:24
Grin
Kazakaren · 24/09/2020 20:30

♥️

KnightsofColumbusThatHurt · 24/09/2020 20:31

@Datun you got a shout out! I have to say, you really are one of the most amazingly articulate people I have ever come across on the Internet, and your points are always just on fire! Thank you.

HollowTalk · 24/09/2020 20:32

Is Datun Posie????

BewaretheIckabog · 24/09/2020 20:36

Datun is consistently reasonable, thoughtful and articulate and has added much to these threads.

MichelleofzeResistance · 24/09/2020 20:45

Datun Flowers

Gurufloof · 24/09/2020 20:48

Is Datun Posie????

The two have never been seen together!!!

RozWatching · 24/09/2020 20:49

That is lovely and I agree with PP, here's to "ordinary" women and absent friends Wine

CaraDuneRedux · 24/09/2020 20:49

@HollowTalk

Is Datun Posie????
No.

Many years ago Posie used to be on here, and her posting style was inimitable. As is Datun's, albeit differently so!

TheShoesa · 24/09/2020 21:14

I do admire Posie for just getting on with it and taking an 'actions speak louder than words' approach .

But being one of the women who bought the t-shirt and wore it nervously on the school pick up, and talked about the GRA consultation to people in 2018 and ranted a fair bit (I've learnt to rein that in!) it was nice to be mentioned. She's right, of course - the 'names' get the exposure, but also the abuse. But anyone who has started a conversation about this in real life, or posted something that shouldn't be controversial but now is, has also had a hand in raising awareness and hopefully had some part in the slowing down of the rollback of women's rights.

Datun · 24/09/2020 21:58

Very flattered to be in the same sentence as Dittany Blush.

And Posie is indeed right, the unsung women who have pushed this through are those as a PP has said, at the school gate, chatting to the mother-in-law, handing out a leaflet, stickering, or, if they can, taking on the school governors.

Those women, and the women with the feminist groups, those attending the meetings, the smart women reading the dry as dust minutes, so I don't have to, the women sending the emails, the women writing the letters, the women taking all the shit on Twitter, the women on mumsnet, the women who are funny, feisty, frantic and furious. And to end on an alliterative note...female.

It's a good day.

TitianaTitsling · 24/09/2020 22:04

It's an amazing day! The fear I have in being GC and working in the NHS is ridiculous-- started off with little things like work place staff surveys and saying gender is not male/female in the 'other' part in forms to feeling brave enough to talk about things with people all down to the amazing human females like Posie and the women on here.

queenofknives · 24/09/2020 22:25

I really appreciate PP mentioning the anonymous women. The pressure that was put on at times for women to out themselves was immense and very unfair. So I appreciated that, because I do think all of us who have been involved in whatever way have taken risks, lost friends, lost opportunities. I lost an entire career over this stuff and I know lots of women who've been through the same or worse, and no one knows who the fuck we are!

Anyway. Congrats to us all. We've won a couple of battles but we still have a fight on our hands. I feel encouraged! Wine Flowers

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RadandMad · 24/09/2020 22:42

@queenofknives Yes, I thought that was very thoughtful and generous of her too. I'm really sorry to hear about your career.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 24/09/2020 23:09

❤️
I am very very impressed by someone who doesn’t find it scary to put themselves out there (in fact actually enjoys the attention) understanding that it is terrifying to many other people.

StillNotAGirl · 24/09/2020 23:44

First Posie video I've watched, by the time she got onto talking about impact of Lockdown it had been interrupted 3 times by random ads. Is that normal for her videos? (I gave up at that point)

TBHno · 24/09/2020 23:49

Posie is a legend, as is everyone else she mentioned in the video.

ClosetGC · 25/09/2020 01:17

I couldn't agree more with all of this. I am a woman in my early 30s, feeling increasingly suffocated by the uncritical, cultish views of millennial wokesters at work. I only became aware of how bad things were thanks to JKR and her tweets in June, at which point I ended up on FWR.

I have learnt so much from all of you here, and I remember even during my first few visits, before I recognised any names, it so often turned out that the posts I copied and saved due to their insight and clarity were written by @Datun. Sometimes now (when I don't have time to linger but want to get to the crux of an issue) I will do a quick scroll of the page for contributions by Datun, as they are so to-the-point, and always spot on.

Thank you so much to everyone else on here too for all you have done, and are still doing, to protect our rights, often at great personal cost. I feel like I'm losing my sanity trying to keep myself from screaming out loud (virtually) about the incoherence, inconsistency, and misogyny of the propaganda my colleagues keep sharing. I need to be a bit careful, but I don't know how much longer I can hold out. In the meantime I've taken to very carefully questioning some of the company policies and "opinions" that seem problematic, though the responses I've had so far suggest to me that those in charge of them really don't have a clue. I hope that at some point soon I will feel able to speak out properly, but until then I will do my best to at least make others aware of the seriousness of the situation, and donate wherever I can.

I wish I knew women like you in real life! (Maybe I do, but they're also afraid to speak out in public?) You really have opened my eyes, and I have so much admiration for you all.

Fallingirl · 25/09/2020 01:23

Lets all raise a glass Wine with Posie, to absent friends who wouldn’t shut up about safeguarding, and fell for the MN ban hammer.

unwashedanddazed · 25/09/2020 02:23

StillNotAGirl
YouTube demonetised her videos a long time ago, so she makes nothing from advertising. However, YouTube clearly understands how popular she is so they insert ads to make money off her back. Also to irritate viewers I suspect, given the frequency on some videos.

GlorianaCervixia · 25/09/2020 02:26

Well said by Posie. This is why I support her, she understands that many women are out there doing work on this even if we're not using our real names on twitter or writing books. Everyone's contribution matters.

queenofknives · 25/09/2020 07:24

stillnotagirl get an adblocker

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ChattyLion · 25/09/2020 09:12

Posie is amazing. I wish I had her brain! She’s so clear in her thoughts. Brilliant and brave AF.
Anyway GRA wasn’t the first time in English law you could lie though- Legal fictions are all over the place. And sometimes have been much needed for social protection, particularly of women and children- think about birth certificates and legal assumptions about fatherhood, by virtue of man being married to the mother. Those protected women and illegitimate children.

But that only goes to support Posie’s incisive and truly illuminating point which is that a genuinely tolerant society would have no need of legal fictions.
Absolutely right.

TheChampagneGalop · 25/09/2020 09:12

@Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons

❤️ I am very very impressed by someone who doesn’t find it scary to put themselves out there (in fact actually enjoys the attention) understanding that it is terrifying to many other people.
Yes I agree. Some people who are very extravert and don't care about reactions as much don't understand that not everyone has the same personality or is in the same situation as them. Everyone matters, from the loudly outspoken to those who can only do smaller, anonymous things.

Wow, Dittany! I remember her, she posted a very long time ago and were unapologetically mega feminist. I wonder what she is doing these days?

Vinosaurus · 25/09/2020 09:21

Yes, have to say, Datun is the poster that pointed me in the direction of this shitshow, so thank you.

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