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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Listing a health provider as being female/make when they are TW/TM

59 replies

Kit19 · 22/09/2020 08:03

As it seems we’re not allowed to discuss specific people on this one, broadening it out

I only want intimate examinations from females and my DH only wants intimate examinations from males

I’d be pissed off in the extreme if my GP practice listed a HCP as female or male and when I arrived they turned out to not be. How does this fit with my right as a patient to have a HCP of the same sex?

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DaisiesandButtercups · 22/09/2020 14:45

The alien analogy is really working for me.

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HollowTalk · 23/09/2020 17:56

@TyroBurningDownTheCloset

How dreadfully bigoted of her, HollowTalk, assuming the identities and sexualities of everyone who disagrees with her!

If you've got any tales of youthful experimentation, could be a handy trump card?

My (female) friend and I have decided to marry each other sometime so that we will inherit each other's pensions. Any other money/house etc would stay within our own families.

I am saving that wedding for a critical moment in our household!

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 23/09/2020 19:42

I think this is a huge breach of trust

I agree. However as a GP and an employer, I know that - if I employed a trans GP - I would probably be forced to describe them by gender identity, or risk being in breach of the EA and employment law. What I would probably do, in practice, is remove everyone's sex from our website, but even that it misleading, as patients are bound to assume that someone with a female name is biologically female.

This is the problem with the extent of regulatory and institutional capture by the TRA lobby. Even employers who are GC or neutral have little room for manoeuvre. The BMA is hardly going to back me up, given its recent support for self-ID. And the GMC and Royal College of GPs have also swallowed the Kool-Aid. All these organisations pay lip service to the rights of patients when, in fact, they are trampling over patients' rights and effectively mandating that we lie to them Angry

hesaidshesaidwhat · 23/09/2020 19:52

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ArabellaScott · 23/09/2020 20:28

I wonder if there's room for doing more than just identifying a doctor by sex. Perhaps doctors could undertake special training in say, sensitivity, trauma care, safeguarding and anxiety or something of that ilk, and then identify themselves as such. The training could include patient-focused care and involve a thorough understanding of the issues surrounding why some patients may choose a same sex doctor. Only doctors who were able to fully grasp the sensitivities on this subject would be allowed to ID as this special kind of doctor.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 23/09/2020 20:35

Four years ago I wouldn’t have minded who I saw - although I would always want women to have the choice. But after years of seeing and hearing relentless abuse of women from TW, and the trans lobby’s endless efforts to erase women, I would not feel safe.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 23/09/2020 20:36

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hesaidshesaidwhat · 23/09/2020 20:47

Yes they are colluding in lying to patients. However it is much much easier to push the decision down the chain in this way it can be blamed on women being unkind and making a fuss. If a trans person applies to for a job why can't they be told that if patients ask for a woman GP then they will not be allocated to the trans person. If the trans person had an ounce of awareness, compassion and understanding they would put their patient first and respect the decision.

I have to say that the fact that a GP thinks they can change sex tells me that they don't understand biology and shouldn't be practising.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 23/09/2020 21:01

If a trans person applies to for a job why can't they be told that if patients ask for a woman GP then they will not be allocated to the trans person

You probably can, if done carefully and with reference to the EA's single sex provisions, but it won't help much because most patients don't request 'a woman doctor': they assume that, if you have a GP called, say, 'Sarah Smith', that GP will be female. So, if the Receptionist tells them the next available appointment is with Dr Sarah Smith, the patient is going to accept, and not find out that Sarah is trans until they meet. Unless Reception tell every single patient that Sarah is trans - which Sarah is likely to see as discriminatory - many patients are not going to realise she is trans until they meet her. Even if Sarah was happy for patients coming for gynae examinations to be told her bio sex, that would not help patients who are attending for other reasons, but who still prefer a bio female doctor.

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