Just when I think the guardian can’t go lower

[Kit19]

It publishes a piece about what happens when your partner comes out as trans & wouldn’t you just know it, all of the partners turn out to be supportive & working through it and “my biggest cheerleader”

I have no problem with them publishing positive stories but would it have killed them to include a least one where the spouse/partner found it all utterly awful & the marriage didn’t last? Why are people being gaslighted into “you’re a hateful person if you can’t get past this”

[quote TinselAngel]A new story has been added on transwidowsvoices.org today which is a great counter balance to that Guardian article.

www.transwidowsvoices.org/post/mary-joan-paying-the-price[/quote]
Thanks for sharing Tinsel

That was on a different thread, which I believe was deleted.

Why was it deleted? The trans doctor is featured in this article for anyone who missed it.

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/11/meet-the-trans-key-workers-treating-teaching-and-serving-the-uk

@Quaagars

The article about the trans woman doctor gleefully boasting about giving intimate examinations to Muslim woman was a particular low

Which story was that? Can't see that in the link

Impressive detail from somebody who, if I remember correctly previously called trans widows "shitty".

Derail. Bloody autocorrect hates me.

Impressive detail from somebody who, if I remember correctly previously called trans widows "shitty"

OK, try again -

Not sure what you're on about there, and what has that got to do with the thread anyway - I literally asked what doctor was referring to as I didn't know and then someone answered (thank you)
so all was answered, It's derailing when you have to put up with stuff like this.
Literally asked a question as wasn't sure. That's it. Thanks to who it was who answered

@aliasundercover

Yep, where all are the heterosexual males being fine with their female partners transing to being transmen?

I wonder if that has EVER happened? Has anyone heard of an example of this?

I actually do know of one.

Without being outing, their relationship was already non-manogamous and the het-husband's orientation is respected in the sex of the extra spouse. Also the trans spouse works away a lot... afaik they're all happy with the situation.

The Guardian is just a silly rag written by the cleverest boys and girls in the fifth form.

They used to be famous for their spelling mistakes now they're famous for not being able to see the difference between Arthur and Martha...and they still can't spell!

Gobshites.

Yep, where all are the heterosexual males being fine with their female partners transing to being transmen

I've heard of a couple of instances, but not ones that have happily stayed together. Maybe it does happen but it must be very rare.

I mean the Guardian would have written about it by now, for a start!

@TinselAngel

Yep, where all are the heterosexual males being fine with their female partners transing to being transmen

I've heard of a couple of instances, but not ones that have happily stayed together. Maybe it does happen but it must be very rare.

This is yet another example of the oddly sexist nature of this revolution,, to be added to the way the female sex is being erased while the male sex is left to stand unchallenged in anything having to do with health concerns and, perhaps (as my impression is based on online stories, not studies), to which toilets are altered to be gender-neutral and which are allowed to stay single sex.

Great to see the new Transwidows site slowly building coverage of the airbrushed. The seemingly repetitive nature of middle aged male transitioner behaviour (from the obliviously self-centred to the downright abusive) is something the narrow-minded trans lobby badly wants silenced. Great great work Tinsel and contributors.

Spot on TikTak, the petulant contradictions are everywhere. I'm the same, I'm all new, I was never he old me so don't call me it, if you loved the person inside you would stay bla bla. It's like dealing with a toddler much of the time. Impact on kids (who should be the kids and their parents adult) is a real issue wilfully ignores by articles like this. Hence I diligently 'deadname' my ex who maintains he is still the same person...

"you’re shallow if you are attracted to his maleness."

But they're not shallow for thinking a bit of eyeshadow and goofiness turns them into a woman. Got it.

It seems to be an attempt to have it both ways, we're supposed to continue to fancy them even though they are now a woman, whilst lesbians should also fancy them precisely because they are a woman.

I have been thinking more about all this and I believe that a compliant wife is a status symbol in this situation.^^ On the few occasions I went out to trans clubs with my ex, I definitely felt that I encountered some hostility, and he said at the time it was because those trans women were probably jealous because they wished they had a supportive wife.

Just read your link tinsel

I think i would find the rewriting of our, or more importantly my, history to be one of the most devastating things

I ran out of words 😶

The whole thing must be devastating

@aliasundercover

Yep, where all are the heterosexual males being fine with their female partners transing to being transmen?

I wonder if that has EVER happened? Has anyone heard of an example of this?

I slightly knew a case where this happened, interestingly it was a polyamorous situation so there was a second woman in the relationship. Mind you this was a few years ago, no idea if it's worked out long term.

Sorry haven't read the full thread but because of the title thought I would post this from the Guardian!

Feminist economics
‘It’s by us, for us’: trans people pool resources for chest binders, hormones and surgery
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/22/trans-healthcare-mutual-aid

(Not suggesting anyone read it the title alone is enough!)

Absolutely Rufus. It would seem a basic human right to define and tell your own history... Funnily enough middle aged transitioners particularly hate other people defining them and denying them their 'truth'. Believing that you have the right to erase and rewrite the life of your spouse, who has lived her life as the spouse of a man, is a narcissistic delusional outrage.