Djokovic

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He apparently purposely flicked the ball at a lineswoman who got hit in the throat and was disqualified.

People on Twitter are saying it was an accident. The footage isn't very clear but considering he's a top tennis player (Ie excellent control over the ball) and known misogynist it doesn't seem surprising he was angry and decided to take it out on a woman.

Particularly unimpressed by this BBC Sport tweet. How the fuck do they know it was "accidentally"? Aren't they meant to be unbiased?

Clearly an accident and his reaction the split second he realises he has hit her shows this.
Rules say he must be sent off, but this has nothing to do with an attack on a woman, whatever Twitter says

Perhaps the feminist issue here is that in the coverage I read there's no mention about if the woman is all right.

On the BBC the only mention of her being okay is in a tweet they printed from Martina Navratilova.

I used to really like him as a tennis player. But this and finding out he’s an anti-vaxxer- I’m done.

I agree, discussing her behaviour in such a way does constitute misogyny.

Op, you have every right to ask your question/post this thread.
I have every right to not see the incident in the same light as you do and say so.

I agree with other posters. I think he is a misogynist in general (didn't he object to female players wanting equal prize money, he said the men should now fight for their worth?), and he was having a temper tantrum which could just as easily have resulted in a male official getting hurt.

But I think the real misogyny in this particular instance is in the coverage, and in the suggestion by some that the woman was only pretending to be hurt or whatever.

He is a misogynist btw, he's previously disagreed with female players receiving equal prize money for example.

If this were a footballer who, in anger, kicked a ball and it hit a female umpire, who then collapsed in pain, would the responses on here (and social media) be so dismissive?I doubt it

Youve every right to bring it up in a feminist space

I haven’t seen the video and obviously IF he did it on purpose then that is dreadful

But you’ve no fucking idea what people would say or not say in regards to your football example

I never understand why posters say ‘oh if this was a man/women/foitballer/ you’d all be saying different things’ youve no idea if the same people would post even

@IDontMindMarmite

He is a misogynist btw, he's previously disagreed with female players receiving equal prize money for example.

Sorry

Should have said I don’t follow tennis but i had seen the ‘not letting women players bit’

Even if it was just thoughtless...its also very telling

Just watched it on the bbc

Looked accidental...but a stupid bloody thing to do, deffo temper

Theyve just found a clip from 2016 where he was asked if he thought there was a danger that he might hit someone

He didnt

@IheartJKR

Accidental my arse.

And mine.

He's from Serbia; I bet it's great being a woman there.

(Sarcasm smiley)

I watched the clip. He hit the ball backwards, not at anyone. He didn't seem angry or enraged, possibly just a tiny bit narked. He didn't aim at anyone. He was obviously not wanting to hit a line judge and appalled when it did. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. I think the expulsion was an over reaction. However, it would have been hard to continue the game with a member of staff receiving medical assistance from an injury caused by carelessness like that.

He says in his apology he's "extremely sorry to have caused her such stress". He doesn't say he's extremely sorry he hit her or hurt her, just that he caused her 'stress'.

This is a bullshit and very telling thing to say. As stress is an emotional response then basically it's her own fault.

Apparently he's going to work on his 'evolution as a human being'. Judging by his attitude in that 2016 clip I fully expect him to start claiming victim status-why does everybody keep picking on me.

I'm amazed anyone would say that disqualifying him is an overreaction. He is a professional tennis player, the tennis court is his place of work. If I went into my office and got annoyed at something and then threw something across the office that hit a co-worker in the throat you can be sure that I'd be on a written warning at the very least.

It's his reaction afterwards and his attempts to minimise it that make it so much worse. Apologising unreservedly, calling for medical assistance, making sure she was okay - these things are all free. Instead, he thought only of himself.

@TweeBree

It's his reaction afterwards and his attempts to minimise it that make it so much worse. Apologising unreservedly, calling for medical assistance, making sure she was okay - these things are all free. Instead, he thought only of himself.

Absolutely

It’s about time he grew up. I’ve got no time for adults who can’t control themselves.

His action of hitting the ball wasn’t misogyny - he clearly accidentally hit it towards a line judge who was a woman, rather than deliberately hit it at a woman line judge - but he clearly deserved to be immediately defaulted.

His reaction immediately afterwards and criticism of her certainly warrants a discussion.

But with tennis fans their favourite player is never at fault. Look at all the people who sought to justify Serena Williams’s actions because the umpire was “racist” . So I imagine to the die hard Djokovic fans a male judge would have “dived” too.

Are you suggesting that he thought:"Are there is a woman there who would be ideal to take out my frustrations on."?

He had a tantrum, which involved hitting a spare ball; it hit a line judge (gender irrelevant), he got disqualified. End of.

I am all for women's rights, but the suggestion that gender has anything whatsoever to do with it is utterly ridiculous. Supposing it had been a woman player and it had hit a male line judge?

He can be a difficult man I think but he has paid the price for what he did.

Whilst I do think that the ball striking the lineswoman was accidental, it is clear that even accidental contact like this is a disqualifying offense.

What really struck me was Djokovic's body language as he remonstrates with the umpires. He's smiling. He's incredulous. It's inconceivable to him that what he did could really matter and have consequences for him. He comes across as wholly expecting that it will be a slap on the wrist and move on.

This is where I see misogyny, or something like it. In the lack of value he places on the health and welfare of the woman he struck. In the expectation that his desire to vent his frustration and progress in the tournament will trump any consequence for causing harm to another. And in the expectation that he will get what he wants because he is more important than her.

It wasn’t intentional IMO and I don’t think the incident is anything to do with misogyny, some of the discussion is.

Your attempts to make this about class, without knowing anything about the women on this board, are truly pathetic and incredibly misogynistic. You’ve assumed the class of women on this board because they, in the main, disagree with you. It’s like being called white feminists when we disagree with self ID. You don’t know anyone or their circumstances. Nothing said here is classist. You’re reaching....

He's a knob. It was a stupid thing to do and he should have known better.
He's setting up some kind of tennis players' union to bargain for pay which explicitly excludes women www.nytimes.com/2020/08/28/sports/tennis/tennis-union-men-djokovic.html
He argues against women players being paid more.
I know nothing about tennis but I know this man is a knob.

I’m not his biggest fan and I think he was dealt with appropriately
However I don’t think he “hit a ball at a woman” I think he carelessly hit a ball in anger, which hit a woman. If that person had been Male he would have done the same, he wasn’t even looking and he did seem shocked and rushed over to see if she was ok.
As for arseholes on SM commenting that the woman was being over dramatic I would like to see their reaction to being hit in the throat by a ball from a pro tennis player - I would literally like to see that

He's from Serbia; I bet it's great being a woman there.

I've lived in Serbia. Whilst there's a lot of tradition, Serbian women are as educated as the men, the IT department I worked in had many more women than IT departments in other places I've worked, and the men and women I worked with had no issue with me being a woman or underestimating my skills because of it, being much more used to seeing women in these kinds of roles. I had no street harassment.

I'd actually say that compared to the UK, it was probably actually more equal in many ways, day to day, for a woman.

Djokovic is a misogynist, that's all on him.