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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

We need a Senator Claire Chandler in this country

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SheWhoMustNotBeHeard · 28/08/2020 08:30

Here is a woman willing to stand up and say what many are thinking. Claire Chandler will likely get vicious backlash but she is amazing. m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=tVc8mQ5RjOc

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Coatandhat · 28/08/2020 09:30

Just brilliant. What a woman!

PaleBlueMoonlight · 28/08/2020 09:41

Wow. Wonderful.

Winesalot · 28/08/2020 10:40

brava!! So much sense.

And maybe I should ask sporting Australia for my past tax back until they protect women and their right to sport....

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/08/2020 10:45

Inspiring and clear Thanks and brave

queenofknives · 28/08/2020 10:46

She's fantastic! Who the hell is heckling her? Everything she said was great. It's such a relief to hear women speaking out with such conviction and integrity.

HeyDuggeesCakeBadge · 28/08/2020 12:45

Has it been taken down? I just keep getting an error message?

Coatandhat · 28/08/2020 15:04

So do I from my phone but the link works from my laptop.

VirginiaWolverine · 28/08/2020 15:45

Do we really need politicians who consistently vote against decreasing the gender pay gap, increasing funding for education, affordable housing, environmental protection, equality between men and women for parental leave, government and business transparency, tackling tax evasion and in favour of religious discrimination against LGBT people? Because that's what she generally stands for.

Coyoacan · 28/08/2020 16:18

Do we really need politicians who consistently vote against decreasing the gender pay gap, increasing funding for education, affordable housing, environmental protection, equality between men and women for parental leave, government and business transparency, tackling tax evasion and in favour of religious discrimination against LGBT people? Because that's what she generally stands for

Left is right and right is left nowadays.

What is the gender pay gap? The pay gap between people that wear a bit of lippy and people with short hair?

PaleBlueMoonlight · 29/08/2020 21:35

@VirginiaWolverine

Do we really need politicians who consistently vote against decreasing the gender pay gap, increasing funding for education, affordable housing, environmental protection, equality between men and women for parental leave, government and business transparency, tackling tax evasion and in favour of religious discrimination against LGBT people? Because that's what she generally stands for.
We definitely do need politicians who are willing to openly state that sex is real and matters, yes.
StephanieRang · 06/09/2020 23:13

An update :

Transactivists have reported Claire Chandler to the equality commission.
She's accused of discrimination for saying men shouldn't be encroaching on women's changing rooms & sports.
Her response to their threats is excellent.

twitter.com/OkBiology/status/1302297685626683393?s=19

Correctorofheretics · 06/09/2020 23:30

More like we need a Donald Trump.

BlackWaveComing · 06/09/2020 23:44

Sorry? Am I on a feminist board? What's this 'we need Trump' bullshit? Remember 'I grabbed her by the pussy?' That's what we need more of? Trump is just another symptom of the same woman-hating problem. That he's right on this, just as Hitler was on tobacco, does not negate the harm he's done and continues doing.

CC is very brave to speak out on this issue. I disagree with her on many other issues; that doesn't negate her bravery. She's a lone voice, however.

I think the most likely outcome of her stance is that Labor women will be pressured to come out as pro-trans (many of them have so far avoided all but the most generic commitment to T rights). The AU Greens are a shitshow on gender at local, state and federal level, and will push Labor to explicitly align with them on this 'progressive' issue.

It's sad that CC is the only person willing to speak up in AU. She has the protection of her party, especially as at Federal level, we're led by a Pentacostal nutter who wants to strengthen religious right to discriminate.

This is not a world that makes me happy. I'm left wing. I believe in left wing economic policy. I'm a feminist. I don't want to be having to go along with all the things I disagree with CC about just to protect the category of women in law.

It's just an indication of how fucked we are in AU. Between the devil and the deep blue sea.

raddledoldmisanthropist · 06/09/2020 23:48

Do we really need politicians who consistently vote against decreasing the gender pay gap, increasing funding for education, affordable housing, environmental protection, equality between men and women for parental leave, government and business transparency, tackling tax evasion and in favour of religious discrimination against LGBT people? Because that's what she generally stands for

I disagree with almost all of her policy positions, but I think that's an unfair characterisation.

She's voted in favour of practical improvements to the rights and protections of transpeople, the only 'anti-gay' vote I can see was against making 'intersex solidarity day' official- I don't have an issue with anyone opposing pointless government virtue signalling.

Similarly the gender pay gap stuff was about increasing pension contributions which would have indirectly benefited women but put a burden on businesses during a pandemic- again I can see her point.

She's certainly very pro free market, cosies up to mining corps, socially fairly conservative and in favour of cutting benefits and government expenditure.

Those two speeches in the videos are excellent. I think articulate, passionate, principled women in politics is a good thing (even if I think they are wrong). Women are allowed to be right wing.

The idea that a senator can be compelled to attend a telling off by a quango for discussing policy is madness.

NotYourCisterinAus · 07/09/2020 02:50

We definitely need politicians who stand up for free speech and for women's sex-based rights, and if Claire Chandler is doing that, well bully for her! If I lived in Tasmania I'd vote for her.

BlackWaveComing · 07/09/2020 03:24

It's great if you feel you can ethically be a single issue voter.

She cosies up to mining corps, socially fairly conservative and in favour of cutting benefits and government expenditure.

I'm not. Environment, rights for lesbians, and a functioning and dignified social safety net matter to me too.

We need Labor women to stand up for women.

NotYourCisterinAus · 07/09/2020 05:34

You can't advocate for lesbians if you can't define them accurately. (You can't advocate for women if you can't define them accurately.) Gender-identity theory strikes me as being homophobic at the core: the TRA's certainly seem to have gone a fair way in turning homosexuality back into "the love that dare not speak its name".

Also, it will be the most poor and marginalised women who will suffer the practical effects of this ideology. Poor (especially poor Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander) women are more likely to find themselves in prison with self-ID'ing males than rich women. The same goes for shelters and public hospital wards. What price their dignity and safety?

Lastly, I regard free speech as the most basic right in a functioning democracy, and once it's gone you no longer live in a free society. I'd say hauling an elected politician up in front of a tribunal because someone says her speech hurt his feelings is long step towards that. And once the idea of "thought crime" is established, there's no guarantee that only your side will get to define it.

I've always erred on the side of social and economic justice myself, but as only a Liberal senator is speaking out on these fundamental issues ... well let's say, I'm not going to let perfect be the enemy of good.

imhereforthesanity · 07/09/2020 06:29

Bought tears to my eyes, thanks for posting OP.

queenofknives · 07/09/2020 08:18

I loved this speech and she is right: compelling her to attend a tribunal is an attack on her freedom of speech. We need politicians of every stripe to defend freedom of speech. I don't really care if I agree with their other policies - if I lose my right to speak then I have nothing. We really really need clear and compelling speakers to set out what's at stake. She is fucking great.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/09/2020 08:47

Her response to their threats is excellent.

She's amazing. Brava Thanks

FUTeams · 07/09/2020 08:48

That was brilliant. I hope she gets lots of support. I wish we had someone who could speak with that much righteous fury in our HoC.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/09/2020 08:50

This is not a world that makes me happy. I'm left wing. I believe in left wing economic policy. I'm a feminist. I don't want to be having to go along with all the things I disagree with CC about just to protect the category of women in law.

I understand, we're in a similar position here. No one in UK "progressive" parties is brave enough to stand up for women and girls, with the exception of two of the leadership candidates in the Green elections.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/09/2020 08:51

I wish we had someone who could speak with that much righteous fury in our HoC.

YY.

OhHolyJesus · 20/03/2021 22:16

I love this woman. She's not giving up on this is she?

m.facebook.com/watch/?v=470635230733477

NotBadConsidering · 20/03/2021 22:52

That is awesome. Bumping.

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