We need a Senator Claire Chandler in this country

[SheWhoMustNotBeHeard]

Here is a woman willing to stand up and say what many are thinking. Claire Chandler will likely get vicious backlash but she is amazing. m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=tVc8mQ5RjOc

I have no idea who this woman is. From the posts I think she's on the other side of the world?

There seem to be a flurry of posts with isn't great! We need more like them! (And they just happen to be right wing).

The only one I've known who it was is Laurence fox.

We have enough in the UK to be going on with, and nearer (Ireland for eg) without continually being asked to go whoop whoop for people who say male and female humans exist (a massively majority opinion anyway, everywhere) and OH LOOK THEY'RE A BADDIE.

this is getting very tedious.

Having said that I just watched it. I know zero about her, her politics, and not much about the political parties in Australia. Because I'm English.

That speech was good though. Getting a summons for saying male humans are male. For crying out loud.

@NiceGerbil

I have no idea who this woman is. From the posts I think she's on the other side of the world?

There seem to be a flurry of posts with isn't great! We need more like them! (And they just happen to be right wing).

The only one I've known who it was is Laurence fox.

We have enough in the UK to be going on with, and nearer (Ireland for eg) without continually being asked to go whoop whoop for people who say male and female humans exist (a massively majority opinion anyway, everywhere) and OH LOOK THEY'RE A BADDIE.

this is getting very tedious.

The point is that the number of people actually willing to stand up and speak about this openly is so small, that I think it's important to recognise them wherever they are from.

I don't care if she is right wing or not...I think the traditional right/left divide is no longer clear - many of us former lefties consider ourselves politically homeless.

With all the biased media coverage you would be forgiven for thinking that nobody believes in biology anymore, just gender feelz.

So yes, it's good to highlight and celebrate when the issues surrounding women's spaces in sport are spoken about so openly like this.

There's that right-wing pipeline again.

...and before you tell me she's a democrat: she's in the democrat party but she votes overwhelmingly in favour of republican policy.

Wait i'm an idiot. I thought this was the one from South Carolina. Naps destroy me.

Right-wing, left-wing; when it comes to transitioning children, these are categories that have become meaningless. If we want to go for the stereotypes, left-wingers will do it to demonstrate how progressive they personally are and right-wingers/religious conservatives will do it to trans the gay away. Left-wingers will not do it because they're they're concerned for the children and right-wingers will not do it because they're concerned for the children. LEFT-WING AND RIGHT-WING ARE MEANINGLESS TERMS IN THIS CONTEXT.

And what is happening in other countries does matter here, because I can't be the only one to notice that other countries (Ireland, Canada etc.) are held up as examples to us here with the 'well it's already happened in X country and there's been no problems' (err, yes there have been problems, it's just that the MSM and you prefer to ignore them).

Oh, this one's not even pretending to be a leftie. Nice.

Don't you already have Liz Truss for this? they seem to have the same policy overlap.

There's that right-wing pipeline again....and before you tell me she's a democrat: she's in the democrat party but she votes overwhelmingly in favour of republican policy.

Well I can tell you're an expert on Australian politics, I'm definitely going to listen to you.

Honestly, I don't know which is funnier- the vast and elastic and ever-expanding definition of "right wing", the mindbogglingly ignorant 'splaining or the naked and shameless US cultural imperialism.

@WhereYouLeftIt

Right-wing, left-wing; when it comes to transitioning children, these are categories that have become meaningless. If we want to go for the stereotypes, left-wingers will do it to demonstrate how progressive they personally are and right-wingers/religious conservatives will do it to trans the gay away. Left-wingers will not do it because they're they're concerned for the children and right-wingers will not do it because they're concerned for the children. LEFT-WING AND RIGHT-WING ARE MEANINGLESS TERMS IN THIS CONTEXT.

And what is happening in other countries does matter here, because I can't be the only one to notice that other countries (Ireland, Canada etc.) are held up as examples to us here with the 'well it's already happened in X country and there's been no problems' (err, yes there have been problems, it's just that the MSM and you prefer to ignore them).

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OP: Could you explain why we need a woman I've never heard of and why you say she is amazing?

Abitofalsrk

You may not have heard of her but plenty of us have.

I can't speak for the OP but for me it's very refreshing to hear a politician be vocal and to speak so clearly about the issues highlighted in the videos. How many politicians in this country have stood up and said what Senator Chandler has said? Or are willing to?

And she is saying this in Australia too, where they are far more entrenched in gender and other identity politics.

Let other countries fight their stuff.

I mean sure post but it was pointed out on the other thread that e.g. the reaction to Laurence Fox was different because we actually know who he is and what he's said etc.

We don't know who these people are in general. I don't understand the nuances, history, ins and outs of the political scenery in other countries in the same inbuilt way I understand my own.

I'm not saying don't post but it feels like a lot of threads recently finding people of the right (whatever that means in that country) and saying not. This speech is good. But 'we need people like this'!

Even the Laurence Fox op described him as 'a breath of fresh air', while the responses were overwhelming that he's an utter wanker.

Then someone said ooh he'd be a good protest vote! Erm no. I mean unless people want to. But there are usually a fair few options in the mayoral elections so it seems a bit premature.

Also I have no idea how many people on the thread actually have a vote in London anyway!

So in short maybe I'm cynical but there are an increasing number of these threads at the moment. Not saying any in particular aren't in good faith but it feels like something is going on!

A fair few did in the lords. Stand up and speak.

And we seem to get getting a bit of progress here what with the court cases, ONS etc.

@allmywhat

There's that right-wing pipeline again....and before you tell me she's a democrat: she's in the democrat party but she votes overwhelmingly in favour of republican policy.

Well I can tell you're an expert on Australian politics, I'm definitely going to listen to you.

Honestly, I don't know which is funnier- the vast and elastic and ever-expanding definition of "right wing", the mindbogglingly ignorant 'splaining or the naked and shameless US cultural imperialism.

The US cultural imperialism is definitely the most tedious!

@NiceGerbil

A fair few did in the lords. Stand up and speak.

And we seem to get getting a bit of progress here what with the court cases, ONS etc.

UK feminism is doing far, far better on this issue than we are in AU.

You don’t need to worry about Claire Chandler NiceGerbil. She’s the genuine article. She has publicly stood up for women and girls in the Australian Senate, committee hearings on sport etc. She has challenged puberty blockers. She has spoken directly about Keira Bell. Look at the videos on her YouTube page. Some amazing speeches.

She’s a member of the Liberal Party, which is Australia’s version of the Conservatives, but of course she’s not some rabid right wing extremist that some will automatically assume she is based on that . And there is a dearth of politicians acting in Australia across the political divide, she’s a lone voice really. The UK could do with more like her, although I would draw a comparison with Baroness Nicholson - someone in the upper house of government who isn’t cowed, and prepared to speak out for women and girls.

Honestly, I don't know which is funnier- the vast and elastic and ever-expanding definition of "right wing", the mindbogglingly ignorant 'splaining or the naked and shameless US cultural imperialism

'Right wing' now just means anyone who disagrees with you, or who see things differently.

The irony is that the Labour party, in Britain, uses it on itself. You come across discussions where people are talking about the hated 'right wing' and the you realise they are talking about people in their own political party - just another faction of it.

Meaningless gesturing rather than engagement with ideas.

Agree this issue is outside traditional party political allegiances etc.

It impacts all women and girls so there should be no surprise that very different types of people talk about it. And also it's very strange to assume that thIs means they share views on anything else. Not believing that humans can change to the opposite sex. Not believing that human sex is on a spectrum, irrelevant and outdated. Not think men should be in female only stuff. Are very mainstream beliefs.

The labour party in the UK is excellent at having massive internal disagreements and splintering etc.

With the anti semitism as well they are in a right state at the moment.

@NiceGerbil

A fair few did in the lords. Stand up and speak.

And we seem to get getting a bit of progress here what with the court cases, ONS etc.

I get what you're saying especially in your previous post. But this thread was started in September. It's not recent.

Oh ok

Didn't realise it was old!

Claire Chandler is excellent on this issue, and there are plenty of Australian posters here. I think there is room for all kinds of threads.

Blooming heck. Neither did I, Gerbil. No wonder there's no reply from the OP.

Yes there is room for all kinds of threads.

People can and should post as they wish.

Thanks for pointing out this is old.

Thank you, NotBadConsidering, for informing us about her and what she has said and done.