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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LOL dolls

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Motherofmonsters · 14/08/2020 09:34

Has anyone seen the videos going around with LOL dolls, I've just watched one and can't believe it.

If you put them in cold water, lingerie appears. One doll even had a devil tail tattoo on her lower back.

Why would they include this on little girl toys

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queenofknives · 15/08/2020 16:32

This is so scary. I don't want to think it's true but on the other hand I have no illusions about the lengths paedophiles go to try to normalise child abuse. It seems like some of the dolls have this "feature" but not all. In the video I watched, some of the dolls had fishnet tights on even before the water revealed their fetish-wear.

BusterBluth · 15/08/2020 17:16

Have you seen the video for those Poopsie Unicorns? It is horrifying.
Sexualised baby unicorns in nappies singing about poop. The comments are turned off, unsurprisingly.

There was a very insightful comment on Twitter that said that these toys are designed to break down barriers of modesty, privacy and decency in children. Once you've normalised this stuff it's then easier to cross further boundaries..

I'm not usually one for conspiracies but...

Pelleas · 15/08/2020 17:49

Perhaps I'm an old fuddy-duddy but having dolls that shit for entertainment crosses a line of taste and decency in my opinion.

Clymene · 15/08/2020 18:29

That video. Jesus Shock

Tuskys · 15/08/2020 18:34

What the fuck is that unicorn video?! I know he is cancelled, but Shane Dawson did a YouTube vid a while ago around inappropriate children's toys.

Mydarlingsleepthief · 15/08/2020 18:41

Fucking hell that video Shock. When it goes to a close up of the nappy booty shaking whilst singing about pooShock

NettleTea · 15/08/2020 18:50

and isnt one of those poop nappies a leather one??

Janaih · 15/08/2020 18:54

OMFG! Confused

OvaHere · 15/08/2020 19:04

These are quite disturbing. As @DJLippy said there's a crossover appeal here between children and adults that immerse themselves in anime/furry/fetish communities. There's probably a number of adults who collect them for those reasons and I can't imagine the designers are unaware of that.

In fact on a wider scale the consumption of 'children's' toys by adults has become a massive market in recent decades generally if we think about the popularity of comic/movie merch and all the cos play type conventions that have grown that market.

I think this is where the lines get blurry, I don't think it's a conspiracy as such but it's likely that some designers themselves are part of these communities or almostly certainly have an awareness of them and see a bit of pandering as a money spinner.

Of course anyone who complains is no doubt written off as a sex negative kink shamer. Hmm

BilboBercow · 15/08/2020 19:40

See the concern for me is that legitimate worries about toys being inappropriate is mixed here with ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Pizza slices are NOT known paedophile symbols. Pizzagate is so ridiculous it's unreal. It stems from the Clinton email hack. The incredibly dull emails, many of which were spam and promotional emails were released and some idiot did a random word search on them and discovered a reasonably regular use of the word "pizza".

QAnnon turned this into a secret "code" for child sex trafficking and claimed Hilary Clinton, her campaign manager and anyone else raving GOP types dislike were running a child sex ring from the basement of a Washington pizza place. The owner and staff received constant threats and harassment and a loon burst into the restaurant waving a gun trying to free the children from a basement in a restaurant THAT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A BASEMENT!

Can I just add, Wayfair isn't shipping trafficked children in cabinets, Bill Gates isn't trying to microchip us and Tom Hanks hasn't run off to Greece to escape prosecution for paedophilia.

Clymene · 15/08/2020 19:50

Well the concern fir me is that children are being sold gross adult kink toys @BilboBercow

It's a question of priorities I guess

BilboBercow · 15/08/2020 20:24

Clymene it's perfectly fine to be concerned about that. But if on the same thread ridiculous conspiracy theories are being repeated and we don't actually know if some of the videos referenced contain real dolls then we lose credibility.

I think it's important to stick to facts and refute falsehoods.

bishopgiggles · 15/08/2020 21:02

Agreed bilbo, what's actually there is bad enough (that unicorn shite!).
I think this is becoming more common, mixing real and false info to discredit and reduce confidence in any sort of 'news'.

GingerBeverage · 15/08/2020 21:07

List of brands owned by MGA Entertainment.

LOL Surprise
Rainbow High
Poopsie Slime Surprise
Na! Na! Na! Surprise
Secret Crush
Baby Born Surprise
Little Tikes
TOBI
Rescue Tales
Lilly Tikes
VIRO
MGA Games
Dojo Battle
Num Noms
Project MC2
Bratz Collector
Wreck Royale
RIP - Rainbows In Pieces
The Hangrees

www.mgae.com/brands

LOL dolls
GingerBeverage · 15/08/2020 21:18

Wait there's more.

Baby Annabel
Dolly Moda
Heidi
Lil Snaps
Ello

And I don't think this statement holds up when they're selling disembowelled unicorns and sexualised toddler dolls.

LOL dolls
LOL dolls
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Clymene · 15/08/2020 22:06

@bishopgiggles

Agreed bilbo, what's actually there is bad enough (that unicorn shite!). I think this is becoming more common, mixing real and false info to discredit and reduce confidence in any sort of 'news'.
I agree with that. But I don't think we should allow the more ludicrous stuff to detract from the fact there is something sinister here. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Snopes rubbishing the troll doll concerns has pissed me off. At some point in that doll's manufacture, someone should have thought that putting a button between her leg that makes gasping sounds is highly inappropriate

NettleTea · 16/08/2020 10:25

My 14 year old son asked me yesterday about the new 'animal heads' that are available for avatars in Roblox.

He is aware of the dodgy elements of furrys and he said that its just so awful because of course kids love animal heads and cute creatures, and he indeed likes the drawing style of anime, but its been ruined because he also knows about the wierd nappies and the pooping unicorns and the furrys, and is just quite upset about it all.

He also said that he finds it a bit dodgy that they just stick tits on the cartoon female characters and 'of course all the teenage boys follow it' and you think your not going to see anything dodgy because its animals, but really its cartoon animals with tits porn, but most people wouldnt class it as that.

He is very frustrated that stuff thats supposed to be for kids just gets ruined by grownups trying to sexualise it.

Dowermouse · 16/08/2020 12:09

My 6yo dd has a few and enjoys the ones that wee themselves, I would prefer them not to be in the house, not least because they all have 100s of tiny parts. 3yo ds also loves dressing them up and caring for them etc.
There is aMichael Jackson inspired figu3call Lil Thriller.....

NettleTea · 16/08/2020 16:20

we always had dolls that wet themselves - I remember tiny tears. But they looked like real babies and not like some sexified baby /pornstar in a designer hotpants like nappy and full make up.

hoodathunkit · 16/08/2020 21:42

The video with the pooping unicorns is a promotional video for a range of unicorn poop themed toys

You buy poops and inside is slime of varying colours, sparkliness and aromas, also a little figurine, some of which are rare and kids may consider them highly desirable and may use pester power to get parents to buy more and more

Slime as a toy is big business at the moment and I can totally see how a product like things could be marketed with absoultely no sinister associations apart from the cynical exploitation of the acquisitive nature of young children

As a business I imagine if is hugely sucessful

It may be a bit gross but so is Fungus the Bogy Man which, IMMIC, also had a merch line of bogey themed slime

Mybabysmylife1 · 16/08/2020 23:55

I've bought over 11 different lol doll things for my daughter it Xmas wtf do I do now! I have no receipts!!

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 17/08/2020 22:50

Looks like a Sharpie effort to me.

But still, Bratz were nasty, same as Monster High and LOLs.

DD is 10 now but I’ve been quite honest with her since she was younger that they all creep me out and she’s not having them. End of discussion.

(Had she received as gifts, they’d have been disappeared straight down the charity shop.)

SunsetBeetch · 18/08/2020 08:36

Christ, they're ugly.

SunsetBeetch · 18/08/2020 08:52

@hoodathunkit

The video with the pooping unicorns is a promotional video for a range of unicorn poop themed toys

You buy poops and inside is slime of varying colours, sparkliness and aromas, also a little figurine, some of which are rare and kids may consider them highly desirable and may use pester power to get parents to buy more and more

Slime as a toy is big business at the moment and I can totally see how a product like things could be marketed with absoultely no sinister associations apart from the cynical exploitation of the acquisitive nature of young children

As a business I imagine if is hugely sucessful

It may be a bit gross but so is Fungus the Bogy Man which, IMMIC, also had a merch line of bogey themed slime

You don't see anything wrong with the unicorn video?

And it's completely different to snot.

hoodathunkit · 18/08/2020 11:11

You don't see anything wrong with the unicorn video?

The unicorn video is extremely weird, granted, but to extrapolate that it is evidence of a paedophile conspiracy seems far fetched to me

Please find the below video of a pooping reindeer sweet dispenser

This is also weird

Is it evidence that the manufacturer wants to corrupt children into scatology and bestiality?

There are many brands of reindeer poop sweets available, are these eveidence of some sinister conspiracy?

I attended a Christmas family theatre production of various fairy tales some years ago. The production included a donkey that shat out gold coins whenever its tail was pulled. The children present absolutely loved the shitting donkey more than any other element of the production. Children are great appreciators of scatalogically themed jokes as anyone who can remember their childhood will confirm.

Was it really a play about fairy tales of do you thi nk it could have been a sinister plot to corrupt children?

If you suggest that it is possible that certain themes, such as unicorns, mermaids and other supernatural beings are used as coded indicators of sinister networks I would not dismiss this out of hand. Supernatural beings feature prominently in the networks I research. Phoenixes, centaurs, dragons, unicorns and mermaids abound.

However if you have a speculative hypothesis you need to test it and find actual evidence.

For example, in the networks I research the symbol of a singe eye, sometimes coloured in a metallic or psychedelic manner often appears.

Does it mean anything?

I might do. It might also simply be that the networks I research are cheapskates and often use easily available stock images and the eye resonated with their pseudo-spiritual bullshit so they often choose it.

You have to always look at different hypotheses that might be true.

In the case of the pooping unicorns the merch products associated with it are definitely products that children like and while there may possibly be some sinister plot associated with them you have to provide evidence if you want to prove it.

I can imagine that all kinds of very weird things may be possible.

I always look for the most likely and simple soultion and in the case of the pooping unicorns it seems to me that this is a brilliant business idea making lots of money for a company that understands children's love of scatalogical themes, unicorns, slime and collecting small toys.

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