Baileys/Women’s Prize for fiction

[FromTheAllotment]

Have you guys seen this?
twitter.com/baileysofficial/status/1293503434340151296?s=21

Dunno if there’s a thread already? But I thought this is very cool! Free books

Ooo this is really really cool! I love their hashtag too

Thank you OP, this is great!

Isn't it great? Free books, by women, a wonderful idea.

I think this is a lovely idea. How lovely to see the names on the books. I will be getting them, some of them I haven’t heard of before so it will be good to read them.

I can't access twitter for reasons I am too crap with IT to understand. What does it say please?

www.baileys.com/en-gb/reclaim-her-name-campaign

Download books published for the first time with their female author's name.

This is wonderful. I'm surprised by how emotional it makes me feel!

I think it's great. I'm surprised at the negativity on twitter, talking about "removing the agency" of the authors. I think people are applying 2020 rationale to the experiences of 150 - 50 years ago.

Fair bit of backlash against it and some retrospective "I'm not transing historical figures but..." reasoning alongside. Weird how even non-contentious "Look at these brilliant women" initiatives are being picked apart by identity politics.

Wow. I just had a poke in the window of my local bookshop and I suspect a feminist was doing the windows! 😉

Great idea. Thanks for the link.

How fantastic! Thanks for this. (I had a terrible moment where I thought you were going to say a man had won the women's prize...)

@NoSquirrels

Fair bit of backlash against it and some retrospective "I'm not transing historical figures but..." reasoning alongside. Weird how even non-contentious "Look at these brilliant women" initiatives are being picked apart by identity politics.

Ugh yeah, just saw a comment saying that it would only be okay if we can definitely verify that they were trans men! Erm yeah, I can totally verify that none of them were trans men since that was not a thing until about ten minutes ago. Someone else saying they'll never buy Baileys again (more for the rest of us!)

My late mum loved a Baileys. I might buy a bottle on her honour.

Something else to look forward to when the library —finally— opens!

Ugh yeah, just saw a comment saying that it would only be okay if we can definitely verify that they were trans men!

If I'm looking at the right one, doesn't it say the opposite of that?
"Were you able to confirm that all of these were actual women and not trans men? If the former, great! If the latter, or if you could not confirm, that could be problematic."
"Yup, sorry if I was unclear on that! It may very well not be an issue, but I would feel more comfortable knowing research into why these people used a male name was done. If that due diligence happened, awesome!"

@LittleHootie

I think it's great. I'm surprised at the negativity on twitter, talking about "removing the agency" of the authors. I think people are applying 2020 rationale to the experiences of 150 - 50 years ago.

Ridiculous, do they also think turning the books into films, tv series is also 'removing the agency' of the authors.

Love this! Thank you!

Probably @Imnobody4! Jack Monroe's angle was "I write using a 'mans' name and would be furious if someone decided to take that away." Then a whole thread of hundreds agreeing with her. So self absorbed they can't conceive of experiences beyond their own.

@LittleHootie

Probably *@Imnobody4*! Jack Monroe's angle was "I write using a 'mans' name and would be furious if someone decided to take that away." Then a whole thread of hundreds agreeing with her. So self absorbed they can't conceive of experiences beyond their own.

But she doesn’t write using a mans name because her name is Jack and she isn’t a man. Everyone knows that she wrote her books. In the past you couldn’t publish under your own name if you were a woman. Jane Austin doesn’t even have the fact that she was an author on her gravestone and none of her books were published under her name in her life time. That is the same for most of those authors. I honestly despair.

I thought she went non binary and blind her breasts for a while?

The sad trend of not being able to celebrate female achievement because "insert gender is non binary waffle here".

Wow that’s such a good idea. And quite moving to ‘discover’ the women behind the men’s names. And none of those women wrote under male names for any other reason than that they knew society would treat them as ‘inferior if they fessed up as female authors and they probably wouldn’t have been published. They weren’t identifying as Male, they were identifying as authors.

Has anyone got a link to buying the whole box set?

Oh I’ve just seen the “no plans to sell them” comments - what a shame!