Poppy Troll Doll

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This must be an Internet wind up?

Let me just check if it's a hoax:

leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/08/fact-check-dreamworks-trolls-doll-is-not-designed-to-groom-young-children-for-pedohiles.html

Was DreamWorks Trolls World Tour Giggle 'n Sing Poppy Troll doll designed with a "private parts" button to groom young children for pedophiles? No, that's not true: The button on the rear bottom of the toy was designed to trigger giggling sounds whenever the doll is placed in a sitting position. There is no evidence, beyond the fears of some mothers, that the button is part of a secret strategy by the toymaker to prep kids for sex trafficking.

Phew. That's all right then.

Seriously?

just what the FUCK.

The Audi ad confused me because there must have been dozens of people involved. But this.. even more so. How did this get from design into production into marketing into retail and get into the hands of a child without anyone stopping it? I know not all the people involved will have been aware of the button, but this still isn't something a lone pervert could pull off.

but this still isn't something a lone pervert could pull off.

Indeed. And there is a considerable perception that paedophilia is far more pervasive than anyone realises.

How else to account for the total acceptance of paedophiles being upfront and open on social media? Even to the lengths of describing the ages of the children they are interested in.

What this doll says to me is that there is a considerable amount of complacency by those who think they can get away with it, and also those who naïvely think it's innocent.

How did they expect anyone to buy the idea that it's normal for dolls to gasp out loud when they are put in a seated position, or giggle, or make approving noises? It's not something that anyone does!!

@picklemewalnuts

I'd say best case scenario, ignorant male designers who would never have made a button out of a penis bulge because it would have screamed inappropriate. Women's genitals are not 'precious' in the same way so 'just a handy place to put a button'. That's assuming there isn't an active map group deliberately infiltrating toys in this way.

What's the betting Hasbro do an Audi and send out a 'deeply regret' apology.

It’s also pretty suspect that they put poppy in a dress that matches the MAP flag

Saw this yesterday. It is shocking. There should NEVER be a button placed there on a child's doll, for any reason whatsoever. Let alone making those sounds.

..what the fuck. Can't say anything else atm, how on earth..

That’s creepy as fuck.

The 'leadstories' article is very irritating.

Even if the doll was not designed to facilitate child abuse, it can certainly be used to normalise child abuse, and a toy manufacturing company the size of Hasbro should have better policies and standards in place.

What. The. Actual. Fuck?

I agree with FemaleandLearning that this is grooming in plain sight.

The ONS reports:

'The Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) estimated that 7.5% of adults aged 18 to 74 years experienced sexual abuse before the age of 16 years (3.1 million people); this includes both adult and child perpetrators.'*

3.1 million victims. That means that paedophilia is by no means a minority interest.

I think this (and the Audi advert) are deliberate. Grim.

*From www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/childsexualabuseinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2019

Grateful as I am for Gronky's whataboutmen interjection that suggests picklemewalnuts is an idiot for using the word "never" and opening the door for Gronky's self-satisfying GOTCHYA! post, it's worth pointing out the Troll doll is a toy to be played with as a toy and the Batman dispenser pump is a dispenser pump to be used as a tool.

I just signed a petition to have it removed. It has almost 160500 signatures and is moving fast and fine.

insideandout3, I don't think picklemewalnuts is an idiot (I don't think you are one either, for reference) but it didn't seem necessary to state.

I think Hanlon's razor applies to the majority mainstream of 'inappropriate' toys. I'd also say that, assuming a lack of paedophile conspiracies, I can see how confirmation bias might play a role (an engineer expecting to hear silly, innocuous noises and perceiving them as such).

Why would the doll need button between it's legs and make gasping sound when it's pressed? Why does it have those flag colours? I can't really see any non-pervy explanation for this.

I’ve assumed from this that either (a) Hasbro is deliberately trying to normalise sexual abuse of children; or (b) that some of their designers are trying to normalise sexual abuse of children, and that their corporate controls are too lax to stop this.

I don’t see the gasping and giggling can have any legitimate explanation. None at all.

My children are older, but I wouldn’t buy a Hasbro toy for a younger child now. No way. Really dodgy. Wouldn’t give it house room.

"assuming a lack of paedophile conspiracies"

And you dismiss the very common, very powerful desire many, many, many* men have to sexually abuse children because...?

I was going to stop at two "many"s, one each for Jeffrey Epstein and Jimmy Saville, then added a third for "teen" being the #1 most searched porn category.

This reminds me of how the Hasbro toy line My little pony gained an adult male fanbase from 4chan ("bronies") who sexualized the little cartoon ponies. It became unsafe for actual children to search for MLP things online as they could come across porn and disturbing violent content.
Look at this figure, a sexy human version of one of the ponies. Created with Hasbro's permission and promoted to the lucrative "bronies" fans.
en.kotobukiya.co.jp/product/product-0000003471/

[quote TheChampagneGalop]This reminds me of how the Hasbro toy line My little pony gained an adult male fanbase from 4chan ("bronies") who sexualized the little cartoon ponies. It became unsafe for actual children to search for MLP things online as they could come across porn and disturbing violent content.
Look at this figure, a sexy human version of one of the ponies. Created with Hasbro's permission and promoted to the lucrative "bronies" fans.
en.kotobukiya.co.jp/product/product-0000003471/[/quote]
Fucking A.

I remember the bronies taking over the ponies. That is why I think this toy is marketed to MAPs (minor attracted people) and the dog whistle in the color choices was expected to fly under the radar with parents.
Pls excuse the mixed metaphors.

And you dismiss the very common, very powerful desire many, many, many men have to sexually abuse children because...?*

My understanding of the word 'conspiracy' is a common (often subversive) plan knowingly undertaken by a group of people in secret. I'm not sure how doubting a paedophile conspiracy as an exclusive explanation requires there to be an almost complete lack of paedophiles in the world.

I was under the impression that the upper bound for the figure, from credible sources, was around 5% of men. Far, far too many but, in my opinion, a number that means any attempt to form a conspiring group would be risky, essentially a 19/20 (at minimum) chance of losing their job at each interaction with a new individual. I can't speak to the corporate culture at Hasbro but, quite apart from not wanting paedophiles in their staff register on the basis of human decency, I imagine they'd be less than thrilled, were it to emerge, simply because of the potential impact on profits.

Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall - all working for the BBC at the same time (when I was the sort of age that they were interested in... all of them producing the sort of family entertainment kids like me would have been encouraged to work). In Savile's case, so many people knew that it was an "open secret" - Irvine Welsh even based a character in one of his books on him.

Of course they get to know one another - a guarded hint here, a coded reference there, a careful testing of the waters... It all relies on plausible deniability if those initial hints are dropped to someone who isn't a pervert, plus mutually assured destruction once they've formed an alliance with someone. (Plus the routine culture of omerta that goes with patriarchal power structures - cf men who predate on adult women - everyone knew about Weinstein, for instance, they just didn't talk about it). The bastards form groups to abuse girls and boys. Yes, some paedophiles are lone wolves, but there are enough documented cases of groups of paedophiles operating together that I don't see why you think it's so implausible, unless you've been living under a rock for the last 20 years.

Don't think for one second readers here don't know what you mean inserting the phrase "assuming a lack of paedophile conspiracies" right before suggesting people who see how totally fucked up this doll are operating from "confirmation bias".

Stop sucking the bone of your word "conspiracy" and its James Bondian secret cabal of evildoers with elaborate plans, men's sexual interest in children is blatant and banal.

Yes, some paedophiles are lone wolves, but there are enough documented cases of groups of paedophiles operating together that I don't see why you think it's so implausible, unless you've been living under a rock for the last 20 years.

Perhaps I can't imagine the drives a paedophile might feel. I can understand them conspiring to physically abuse children or exchange abusive material but I just don't imagine that they would risk exposure in order to make a perverse toy.