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A rant that I couldn't find a better home for

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TyroSaysMeow · 02/08/2020 04:17

AIBU to think we're led to believe there's a social contract, but it's a lie?

Caveat: I might be a bit pissed, but in vino veritas, et al.

We're supposed to look after the buggers, and do everything we can, and sacrifice ourselves in the name of making sure they're alright, and in return they're supposed to make sure we're alright, and look after us - the social contract we buy into is we look after and so they look after us - but it doesn't work that way, does it?

We look after them, but when we're not okay they just smile and nod and hope that when we sober up we'll go back to being good little support humans.

The thing we buy into, the social contract, is - we'll look after them, we'll do the shitwork, we'll make sure everything is okay and hunky-dory in their lives, and in return they are supposed to look after us, and keep us safe. This is the social contract we are expected to buy into, as women.

But I'm not being kept safe. Because every time I do my woman's duty of looking after the menfolk in my life, I'm forced not just to listen to the sounds of the deaf-and-dumb paedophile, I also have to pretend I can't hear him.

Because if I acknowledge I can hear him, it's an acknowledgement that they - my menfolk - have failed in their half of the social contract. They have failed in protecting me; they have failed in their duty; they have failed as men; and it hurts them to realise this...

And so I have to lie.

Every time, I have to lie. I have to pretend I can't hear him. I have to pretend he's not there. I have to pretend I can't hear the calling sound of the paedophile, because if I acknowledge it they feel bad that it's there.

He still lives next door to my dad. My dad, who decided that he wouldn't be chased away by some monster, so he'd stay right where he was and to hell with how bad the paedophile felt having to see him every day - with nary a thought for how his daughters might feel having to see and hear their abuser every time they visited.

It's been twenty five years since I saw my sister say "no" and realised that I too could refuse to go along with what he wanted. It's been eighteen years since the violent response of a man to my disclosure forced me to go the police. And still, every time I do my familial duty, and look after my menfolk, I have to hear him, making his deaf-and-dumb grunting noise with which he used to call us forth to fellate him.

But it's me who has a problem. Me who can't hold my drink, gets maudlin, gets rowdy and argumentative and stroppy, me who turns into a right irritable shitty little bitch who needs to stop drinking and shut up. Me who needs to stop drinking because every time I drink and hear the paedophile - because he's right fucking there just a couple of dozen feet away - me who needs to stop drinking because I get angry and they can't cope.

Why is it my fault that I can't get over being forced to fellate him when I was two years old? Why is it my fault that I can't shut up and get over it and forget all about the first memory I have being that of being raped? Why is it me who's characterised as unable to hold her drink when they give me booze in his presence and expect me not to notice?

Why do they think they're doing their manly duty by tolerating me and kindly telling me to shut up, when they're failing in their half of their social contract?

They are supposed to protect us from this shit. That's their half of the bargain. And yet eighteen years down the line they're still pretending there's nothing they can do and so there's nothing happening and nothing to hear and nothing going on except me being unfortunately and inexplicably nuts.

I don't know why I'm posting, except I need to speak and be heard, because no matter how loud I scream no one can hear me.

It's FWR; women's voices matter. Here's a woman's voice, desperately screaming for a good couple of decades now, yet they cannot hear. All they can do is wait for sobriety and the swallowing of the rage.

They're good men, and yet they cannot see what they're doing to me when they expect me to pretend my abuser doesn't exist.

The judicial system didn't help - community rehabilitation my fucking arse - so where do I go from here?

AIBU to think the idea that they'll protect us in exchange for us looking after them is a massive fucking lie?

OP posts:
TehBewilderness · 02/08/2020 05:03

I am so sorry.
They are not good men.
They are ordinary men.
What you describe is what ordinary men do, not what good men do.

Trinketsfor20 · 02/08/2020 05:06

I am so so Sorry you were sexually abused as a little child - it’s heinous and unpardonable. I wasn’t sure what social contract you are referring to but you aren’t contractually bound to look after anyone. Have you found some counselling for yourself? Do you think it might enable you to go no contact?

blubellsarebells · 02/08/2020 05:33

Im so sorry, and i can hear you x
Men need to hold men to account for the abhorrent shit they do to this world, to women, to our children.
I dont know the answer but there is nothing wrong with you x
Dr. Jessica Taylor is doing a lot of work around trauma in childhood, might be worth contacting her either for recommendations for therapists or just to read her work.
You did nothing wrong. Anyone minimising what happened to you is sick and you need to cut off.

Rebelwithallthecause · 02/08/2020 05:42

I echo everything previous posters have said

I’m so sorry Flowers

TransScandal · 02/08/2020 07:12

I'm so sorry. You have been failed by so many people on so many levels and you have every right to feel the way you do.

None of this is your fault.

Could you find a support group or counselling so you can be heard in person? You've been ignored for too long but that doesn't mean it has to be like this forever. They may be able to pretend it never happened but you don't have to.

I hope you can find the support you need so this doesn't continue to ruin anymore of your life x

Jellyeggs · 02/08/2020 07:29

I’m furious and broken-hearted on your behalf. You were innocent and you are innocent and you have been let down over and over again.

Cloud1921 · 02/08/2020 08:35

I'm so sorry, what's happened to you is heinous, but what your family are doing to you now it terrible.

My DD was sexually abused, I can't imagine how hard it is going to be throughout her life to recover and heal. So I feel for you, I really really do.

As I parent there is no way on this earth that I would allow my daughters abuser anywhere near her. I can't understand how your family can expect you to continue to visit somewhere where you are knowingly coming into the vicinity of that monster.

How you continue to visit I have no idea. I can't imagine from what you've said that it's doing your mental health any good. Why on earth would anyone think putting you in that position wouldn't be highly triggering I don't know.

You are not in the wrong. You haven't done anything wrong, not when you were a little kid and not now. You're family should be protecting you from this and they're not.

Can you refuse to go back to that house. State your reasons clearly and not back down? Surely there is another place you can all be together?

I'm so angry for you x

RedLimoncello · 02/08/2020 08:35

Oh my God. This is horrendous! You don't have to do this. You owe nothing NOTHING to a father who would make you exist within hearing distance of this piece of filth.

You are NOT stroppy or silly or stupid or weak for expressing this. FUCK THEM!! Jesus H Christ!

You poor poor soul.

You need to take care of yourself. Have you had any counselling? If this only comes out when you've got alcohol on board, in the gentlest possible way, maybe you need some help to express all that you feel without the Dutch courage?

You would be absolutely, 100% justified in never visiting your dad at his home again. EVER. Have him visit you if he must. Or do you still live at home?

I can't imagine how unbearable this must be for you. How terrifying it must have been for this to happen you as a little baby. My heart aches for you. No social contract can justify this. You don't owe anything to someone who has let you down so very very badly.

Thanks
picklemewalnuts · 02/08/2020 08:53

Tyro, my heart breaks for you.

Why do you go there? Why is what they want more important than what you want?

LockdownLump · 02/08/2020 08:58

Oh god OP. I hear you loud and clear. I believe you. This wasn't your fault.

You have been let down by the very people who should have protected you.

You are important and you need to get help to sort this out. Pleas take a PP's suggestions regarding reaching out for support?

Don't visit your dad's. It's not an obligation. It may feel like it, but you don't have to go, ever again.

ISaySteadyOn · 02/08/2020 09:00

I am so sorry. You have done nothing wrong and the people who are supposed to support you have done wrong. Flowers

ChateauMargaux · 02/08/2020 09:12

I am sorry that your family did not do their best to ensure that you were protected from this vile creature and have failed to protect you from the continuing trauma you are suffering. Please find support outside of your family so that you can find a way to live your best life away from all of this.

IHeartSusanDey · 02/08/2020 09:21

I am so sorry, love. I too hear you.

You do NOT have to visit your dad. Remember the FOG that often keeps us tied to family relationships even when pain is all they bring to the table. Keep away and know you are doing this for the little girl you once were and to protect the woman you are today. Never look to men to keep you safe. There are no male heroes for women. Do what you have to do for you and if the men don't like it...fuck them.

Aisforharlot · 02/08/2020 09:24

I'm so sorry.
How can they bear to live next to him knowing?

GrandmaMazur · 02/08/2020 09:46

Tyro, I’m so very sorry this happened to you and that your family have not put you first.

This was not and is not your fault. You owe nothing to people who expect you to be ok with things that are not ok.

Please talk to someone in real life. If you don’t want to be in the presence of this monster ever again - and why would you - then don’t go there again.

We hear you. Flowers

TyroSaysMeow · 02/08/2020 11:17

I did the counselling thing. I did the breaking down in front of the GP enough to be to be referred to secondary mental health, which takes a fair bit of doing. They're determined to locate the problem within me, and there's fuck all therapy that works when you refuse to accept that, and then they say you're not engaging and wash their hands of you. Waste of bloody time. My last contact with mental health services was when I got sectioned - you don't actually get any help or support when this happens; they just fill you with antipsychotics and send you on your way.

I stopped going round there last year; they thought I was losing the plot. Had to go back because there was no one else to do the shopping during lockdown.

I'm just sick to bloody death of the top priority being the need to manage men's reactions to the knowledge that other men do this shit.

The social contract I refer to is the millennia-old protection racket men have had going on. I don't know if I can formulate anything coherent about it, but they are supposed to protect "their" women from other men - but they don't. I'm not advocating a return to us legally being property, but they still act as though we are, yet fail to live up to their half of the bargain.

What set me off yesterday was my brother's suggestion that we take the scooters so the kids could play out. Clearly had not engaged his brain whatsoever. They'll be in earshot, he said, it'll be fine. Except my sister and I were always within earshot, and it was very fucking far from fine.

And now it's a new day and I get to sheepishly apologise for still not being over this and then go back to pretending everything's fine, because none of them can grasp that it will never be fine.

OP posts:
BusyProcrastinator · 02/08/2020 11:59

I’m really sorry this man did this to you and your father didn’t protect you and doesn’t move and your brother belittles your experience.

Perhaps your brother should be doing all the good shopping?

Do try Jessica Taylor. Have you done the Freedom Programme? I know it’s for domestic abuse but it might help too

Xxx

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 02/08/2020 12:09

I'm so sorry OP Flowers You say you have a brother, HE can do the shopping then, or they can do their own. Or sort something else out. It doesn't have to be you, it shouldn't be you. You shouldn't have to set foot over that door for as long as you live. They don't think of you, so you don't owe them anything, especially not your continual suffering just so they can continue their lives unaffected.

See if you can go no contact again for your own sake Flowers

EarlofEggMcMuffin · 02/08/2020 12:17

Tyro, the problem is not within you at all; you know this well.

You, Tyro the child and Tyro the adult have been failed by others, and continue to be failed by us.

Anyone who knows anything about neurology, the developing brain and trauma, knows that being back on the same street continues to re-traumatise you.
The sights, smells, lighting, movements etc etc

No wonder that you resort to alcohol in an attempt to manage this.

So,

  1. You dont need to apologise, sheepishly or otherwise, for your difficulty managing this
  2. their guilt is theirs to manage, not yours.
  3. Your dad's choice not to be chased away by a paedophile:-
He has a greater responsibility to you than he does to stand up to a Paedophile. He has failed in that responsibility.
  1. Your choice to protect yourself by not going there, is absolutely the most sane thing you should do.

I get what you are saying about the social contract- that contract has been broken by the other side (the men in your family and on your street).
Therefore there is no obligation on you to uphold your end.

IHeartSusanDey · 02/08/2020 12:19

I know what you mean about women needing to prioritise men's feelings when we talk about the violent foot soldiers who keep women down - these violent men by whom all benefit. They take it personally when we speak of them, they tell us that NAMALT...yet we know we risk these supposedly decent men's wrath or their silencing tactics by even talking about how men as a group oppress women as a group. So they aren't so different.

IHeartSusanDey · 02/08/2020 12:19

*By whom all men benefit.

Thelnebriati · 02/08/2020 13:01

Its interesting that you have spoken in terms of a contract. ''Nice Guys'' see relationships with women as contractual. They'll act nice as long as you give them what they want.
Good men don't leave children at risk of the same predator they fail to protect you from.

The choice you have is to stop being a good girl; stop going to their house. Think of it as a form of self harm. You don't owe them this much.

Jessica Taylor has written a free course for survivors;
www.victimfocus.org.uk/free-caring-for-yourself-after-sexual-violence

Dontbeme · 02/08/2020 13:32

OP I was three when my abuse started, a family "friend" and when it was discovered I was warned not to speak about it, this scum was allowed into our home and behaved as if nothing had happened. I spent many meals sitting across from him, my stomach in knots and having to pretend all was fine. It felt like I was swallowing glass. As an adult (because of this denial of the truth) I have been vuneralble to further abuse (raped in college and then ended up in an emotionally abusive relationship) I had to learn the tough way the only person who cared about me was me, the people who told me they loved me sat on their hands and did fuxk all when it came down to it, when I was an abused kid and as an abused adult. It was not convenient for them to act then to stop the abuse and not convenient to reach out to me as an adult because then they would have to admit how they failed to protect me.

Every time you step foot near that house you are being abused all over again, it is no shock that you are numbing yourself in whatever way you can. Do not apologise for others failing you, get angry. If there is nobody to do shopping, well tough shit that is a consequence of a decision your dad made not to be inconvenienced by moving house. Your brother can do it, if all is so fine and dandy it will be no trouble for him to trot along to the shops.

You need to care for you, care for the little girl you were, she deserves it be comforted and kept safe. If it helps try connect counseling, a free service that specialises in childhood abuse, they do counseling over the phone. They cover Ireland and UK connectcounselling.ie/

I am so angry on for you and the people who failed you, be kind to yourself.

Dervel · 02/08/2020 13:39

I wouldn’t say I’m a good man, although I certainly try to be, but I do not think it is at all inaccurate or on unfair to characterise the situation you have described either on the personal level or on the meta level as a failure to live up to our side of the social contract. It should always be the responsibility for those stronger to shield those who are less so.

Why do you think we seek to diminish and undervalue women’s contribution to the social contract? It’s because it then diminishes our responsibilities to reciprocate.

I do not know if this would have any cathartic value to you whatsoever, but in case it does to hear a man say it I will. I am very sorry, none of what happened to you was your fault, I’m sorry you weren’t protected then, and I’m sorry you aren’t being listened to and protected now.

If should never have been your darkness to bear, and you have absolutely every right to feel angry about it and if that helps you to heal fair enough.

Cailleach1 · 02/08/2020 14:09

I can't understand how someone who loves you doesn't acknowledge the trauma of what happened is remembered whenever you go back to the scene of the assault. How can you heal if the scab is picked off all the time? Why would you have to apologise for not wanting to a sort of continuation of the abuse.

Two years old. Words fail me.

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