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Chase Strangio and accusations towards JKR around Genocide.

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CarnivorousYoni · 27/07/2020 15:46

Chase Strangio, ACLU lawyer extraordinaire, has a little tweet thread accusing Joanne Rowling of genocide etc. in which Chase does not tag her, but calls her 'the Harry Potter person'. Quite apart from the majestic irony of obscuring her sex and defining her by her male character creation, the accusation of genocide support is astounding and in keeping with the usual tone from TRAs.

However, I particularly enjoyed the second of the tweets in the thread, for, verily forsooth, it did display that Chase knoweth many words thereof, but not how to use them coherently. See if you can help me parse this gem;

Situating the trans subject and the trans body in the contested discursive space the way she does pulls the conversation around transness into the posture of working to locate the legitimate trans subject.

I think Chase means that by talking openly about trans as a subject, and trans people's bodies, Rowling is encouraging people to think about what Trans actually means. I'm not certain, because, who would be?

I think Chase takes issue with this conversation because in the context of the thread, Chase is suggesting that talking about Trans people is basically encouraging society to commit genocide against them.

See if you can make head or tail of it.

mobile.twitter.com/chasestrangio/status/1287367457213161473

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ApocalypseNowt · 27/07/2020 15:54

I think you're right...

I mean I definitely know all those words but I've never seen them arranged in that order. Why can't people use plain English?!

CourtneyLurve · 27/07/2020 15:56

The ACLU hates women. They've been merciless in taking anyone who excludes males bodies from female spaces to court. Men are women if they say they are. Fuck women's dignity, safety and privacy.

They had record donations when Trump was elected, and this is what they've spunked a good chunk of the money on.

Xanthangum · 27/07/2020 16:00

Situating the trans subject and the trans body in the contested discursive space the way she does pulls the conversation around transness into the posture of working to locate the legitimate trans subject.

Chase Strangio and accusations towards JKR around Genocide.
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ScrimpshawTheSecond · 27/07/2020 16:18

Accusation of genocide?! Ever so teeny-slightly hyperbolic, but surely that's actionable?

noblegiraffe · 27/07/2020 16:35

Postmodernist bullshit

ThePurported · 27/07/2020 17:01

I think Chase means that by talking openly about trans as a subject, and trans people's bodies, Rowling is encouraging people to think about what Trans actually means. I'm not certain, because, who would be?

I think you nailed it, they weren't prepared for so many wtf reactions and they're horrified to see the whole thing starting to crumble.
Why blame JKR? People have eyes and brains.

NeutralJanet · 27/07/2020 17:07

Chase's Twitter bio states "No cis heterosexuals." Chase is clearly not open to any meaningful debate and just wants to hear his own views parroted back at him in an infinite loop.

Chase Strangio and accusations towards JKR around Genocide.
KingFredsTache · 27/07/2020 17:07

She is 'feeding a genocidal impulse'?

Purleeeeeeez.....

CuriousaboutSamphire · 27/07/2020 17:09

Woah!

Lots of word farting!!

Weird. Bet he feels dead clever after all of that stinky puffing!

GoldenOmber · 27/07/2020 17:11

That the same ACLU that have defended the KKK’s right to go on marches in white hoods?

KingFredsTache · 27/07/2020 17:11

They are so obviously fuming that she is pooping their party simply by shining a light on it.

The accusations will escalate as they become more desperate.

Coyoacan · 27/07/2020 17:11

Don't most people learn as teenagers that using lots of big, obscure words isn't the best approach when writing?

I wish. I'm all for big obscure words when they are the most accurate words to convey an idea, but I fear that Judith Butler and her followers use them to obfuscate.

MoltenLasagne · 27/07/2020 17:12

You'd think a lawyer would understand that you can't go around accusing people of genocide even if you ever so cleverly don't use their name and use lots of long words.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 27/07/2020 17:21

...park life.

Portnlemon · 27/07/2020 17:22

The prolific use of the word genocide is sad. It will soon mean no more than a couple of people passing away peacefully in their sleep.

BacklashStarts · 27/07/2020 17:27

Is that libellous? I really feel these twats shouldn’t be able to get away with this garbage!

IsMiseMorag · 27/07/2020 17:28

@Ihaventgottimeforthis

...park life.
Flowers
Tootletum · 27/07/2020 17:32

Really disappointed I gave them money for the whole Mexican border drama thing in 2018. This is all such bullshit they're just stoking so much anger they'll end up getting trump reelected. Which will probably result in us all dying in a nuclear winter. So yeah, TRAs will bring about the end of the world. Cool.

LizA49 · 27/07/2020 17:54

My OH and I have developed something of a pattern of watching an episode of “the world at war” every Sunday lunchtime. Yesterday was the episode titled “genocide”. It was utterly heartbreaking, hearing firsthand from people who had survived the Holocaust; the horrors they saw and endured. The sheer monstrousness of it.

Anyone who uses that word so carelessly is without shame.

NearlyGranny · 27/07/2020 17:59

And the ACLU was founded a century ago by, among others, Helen Keller, for laudable purposes.

How tragic that it has descended to this sort of pernicious babbling. How does someone who thinks and writes like that even acquire a law degree? They surely wouldn't in the UK.

Perhaps CS was drunk-tweeting? It's the most generous interpretation.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 27/07/2020 17:59

@Ihaventgottimeforthis

...park life.
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Coyoacan · 27/07/2020 18:15

@Tootletum

Oddly enough Trump has been a much better friend to Mexico than Obama. I can't understand it, he says such OTT things and seems to determined to get his supporters to die of covid or by drinking bleach, but the fact remains, we like him here in Mexico.

RiotAndAlarum · 27/07/2020 18:34

@Ihaventgottimeforthis

...park life.
Baahaaahaaaa!
Goosefoot · 27/07/2020 18:39

@GoldenOmber

That the same ACLU that have defended the KKK’s right to go on marches in white hoods?
I totally support them in that.

One of the great things about various civil liberties groups, in the past, has been their principled commitment to free speech - even when it involves unlikable people and nasty ideas.

But it's interesting that generally they have taken on support for trans causes, rather than those of women and children.

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