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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Speakers' Corner - Edinburgh 2nd Aug @ 2pm

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NonnyMouse1337 · 23/07/2020 21:08

forwomen.scot/23/07/2020/speakers-corner/

Sick and tired of being banned from social media and cancelled for telling the truth, women are taking back the public square, one corner at a time.

At 2pm on Sunday 2nd August, women will gather at the foot of the Mound/Princes St in Edinburgh, reviving the tradition of free speech at the site of the historical Speakers’ Corner.

In the current climate of cancel culture, there is a new urgency to demonstrate the right to free speech. Women will describe how they have been harassed, threatened, silenced and fired for daring to define themselves.

Social distancing will be strictly observed and guest speakers will also be live streamed on For Women Scotland YouTube for those who prefer to stay at home.

After the live stream ends, all women are invited to speak for approximately 2 minutes.

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fatblackcatspaw · 02/08/2020 22:57

somebody came from Leeds!

NonnyMouse1337 · 02/08/2020 23:42

@Lamadingdong

I'd guess maybe 100-150 folk? Terrible at estimating that kind of thing though. Some wee pics of those who went to Princess St Gardens after wards on Twitter.
I thought it was more like 50-60, although I'm terrible at estimating crowds as well, and I was at the front so wouldn't know how many joined at the back.
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PaleBlueMoonlight · 02/08/2020 23:48

I listened on Facebook and it was great. Thanks all who were involved.

AvocadoBathroom · 03/08/2020 00:40
Not sure if anyone posted this yet but here's the video of it today.
Sexnotgender · 03/08/2020 07:39

I’d have said at least 100 were there.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 03/08/2020 09:46

Headcount put it around 150, which was great especially at the moment.

Suffrajester · 03/08/2020 11:10

@334bu

Very interesting event. Specially impressed by the woman talking about autistic children. Well done everyone Flowers
Thanks! I'm banned from Twitter (the mods worked out I ran Stranglewank Hitman and banned my real account too as well as "him") so couldn't share transcripts on there but I've signed up here after meeting so many great Mumsnetters at the event. Here's the Facebook group I mentioned, Gender Critical Autistics, we just set it up recently. It's just a discussion group at the moment but hopefully we can grow it and make it a useful resource. Transgender Trend, 4th Wave Now, the Tavistock whistleblowers and Safe Schools Alliance have been great on supporting autistics but there isn't really one group by and for us that links it all up, so that's what this is supposed to be. Non-autistic allies welcome too, we're a small population so we need all the pals we can get! www.facebook.com/groups/319309189461011/?ref=share

I've got my speech here, this is what I was staring at awkwardly on my phone (but hey, sporadic eye contact is normal for us! ;) )

"I am autistic, and I want to talk about the transitioning of children as the latest eugenics attack on our community.
In the early 1900s in the UK, the then home secretary Winston Churchill recommended sterilisation of "feebleminds", including autistics, for "the improvement of the British breed".
In the 1940s, Hans Asperger, a paediatrician and autism researcher, collaborated with Nazi authorities and referred his child patients for sterilisation and execution under Aktion-T4. My own diagnosis is Asperger Syndrome, still named for him.
In the late 2000s, quack groups like Autism Speaks focused on genetic testing and screening to eradicate us. So far several genes have been identified. We don't yet know all its causes, but there is a strong genetic component. Both my parents and all my grandparents were autistic, and proudly so!
Which brings me to now. The Tavistock centre, the UK's NHS child gender clinic, shows that although autistics are only 1.6% of the general population, almost 35% of its patients were diagnosed autistic and over 50% showed some autistic traits. These children receive GnRH agonists and cross-sex hormones that leave them infertile before they can even freeze sperm or eggs. When we know our condition is genetic.
Yet again, we autistics are being bred out, and it's people who claim to be progressive calling for our eradication.
So much autistic behaviour is pathologised: we all remember tearing off uncomfortable clothing or not fitting in with our peer group, it's not because our bodies are wrong, it's just normal autistic traits that we learn to manage.
To other autistics: I know it's not easy, and we often look for a quick fix rather than the slow work of learning and working with our condition to get the best out of it. But the best advice I can give is to accept and love who you are. We are a proud community that included Isaac Newton, Mozart, Emily Dickinson, and society would be worse off without us.
And to the quacks: You swore to "first do no harm", your colleagues like Sue and Marcus Evans have seen what was happening and spoken up. I thank them. It's not too late to join them. If not, history will remember you alongside Hans Asperger and Andrew Wakefield, and you will be struck off like him. Autistics have long memories and a strong sense of justice, and we will not stand for yet another eugenics attack on our people."

Thanks for coming along, it was great to meet people!

terryleather · 03/08/2020 11:20

Your speech yesterday was very powerful Suffrajester, glad you've found your way to Mumsnet and welcome!

Sexnotgender · 03/08/2020 11:22

Hey @Suffrajester! Great to have you here. Your speech was excellent yesterday.

BlackeyedSusan · 03/08/2020 13:14

Long memories indeed.

sandinmybellybutton · 03/08/2020 13:53

Suffrajester, I found your speech very moving, it was brilliant. Well done for speaking out.

Cuntysnark · 03/08/2020 14:07

That’s chilling, Jester, but an excellent speech.

howonearthdidwegethere · 03/08/2020 14:09

I did a rough head count and I'd say there were about 100 people there for most of the hour and then another 20-40 or so others drifting over for shorter periods. Probably passers-by wondering what was going on and sticking around to listen to one of the speeches.

It was excellent! Was glad to be able to make it, as didn't make the FWS protest outside Parliament in March.

Murraygoldberg · 03/08/2020 14:10

Suffrajester, I was there yesterday and thought you made an excellent speech, really well done, you spoke so honestly and movingly

334bu · 03/08/2020 17:16

As I already said upthread your speech really moved and impressed me. Thank youFlowers

LadyScience · 03/08/2020 18:13

Thanks for posting the video to give those of us who couldn’t attend a chance to listen and feel part of the event, and huge thanks to everyone who organised, attended, spoke and shared their stories.

MsPah · 06/08/2020 22:08

Thank you for your voice: passionate and compelling. x

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fatblackcatspaw · 08/08/2020 22:07

thank you ! lovely to see

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