Woman accessed child abuse images from hospital bed

[KayakingOnDown]

Haven't seen a thread on this.

Julie Marshall looked at some of her 80,000 child abuse images while recovering from a heart attack. Presumably on a women's or mixed ward.

Julie Marshall admitted three counts of making indecent images of children. 677 of the images downloaded were of the category A, most serious, type.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-lancashire-53410019?__twitter_impression=true

Anyone post the link on Reddit yet?

I imagine actual trans women are as horrified by this as women are.

Dear BBC

That's not a woman, it's a MALE PAEDOPHILE.

From,

Biology, fact, science, logic etc etc

I've written to the BBC to question the accuracy of their report.

You’d thinking eliminating this type of outrage is a campaign the trans lobby would happily join forces with feminists on? There can and could be a way of managing this so that if sexual offending/ violent crime is committed then the perpetrator doesn’t access female jails (whilst we still have them).

The stupid thing is reporting male pattern crimes as being perpetrated by a woman makes everyone look because it's so unusual.

And when you look, you see.

If they'd said man I wouldn't even have clicked because it's so depressingly common. So I can see how this benefits the BBC in terms of clicks. I'm not sure drawing attention to every crime committed by a transwoman (which is what this approach does) is that great for trans people.

I imagine actual trans women are as horrified by this as women are

I guess the whole point is , what is an 'actual' trans woman. We hear de-transitioners being told that they "can't really have been trans" after all......And with the prospect of Self ID , who is to know, or to judge?

To me, and to most GC people 'being trans' is not a material reality, but an identity, a feeling...most often resulting from dysphoria. and when it comes to 'feelings' who is to judge?

You would think anicebag but there’s nowt but crickets from TRA when this happens shortly followed by ‘how dare you tarnish us with the same brush as them - no trutrans’

@Justhadathought

I imagine actual trans women are as horrified by this as women are

I guess the whole point is , what is an 'actual' trans woman. We hear de-transitioners being told that they "can't really have been trans" after all......And with the prospect of Self ID , who is to know, or to judge?

To me, and to most GC people 'being trans' is not a material reality, but an identity, a feeling...most often resulting from dysphoria. and when it comes to 'feelings' who is to judge?

Trans should refer just to transitioning women (ie those who are waiting for surgery to become a woman and who may be living life as a woman in the meantime). It doesn’t (and should never have) refer to pedos who ‘come out’ after getting caught with child pornography

Justhadathought yes, and in a way it underlines the fragility of the whole idea - if you think about the type of person who has the surgery, maybe passes sometimes, maybe not, but generally behaves like a ‘normal person’ (for want of a better phrase), it’s easier to think ‘well, it seems meaningless/a lot of hassle to me but it makes them able to live their life more fully and they’re not harming anyone, so okay’. The TRA type draws attention to the illogicality and meaninglessness of it. What is ‘living as a woman’ except, really, dressing up as one? Which is silly because women can dress how they like. And the whole thing becomes more and more ridiculous. Because nobody actually believes that people can change sex.

Frances Crook (CEO of the Howard League for Penal Reform) tweeted that she thought it was important that sex not gender is reported in crimes.

twitter.com/francescrook/status/1283065629919109120?s=21

Quite a few people were incensed by her stance and called her transphobic. They believe it's more important for a prolific paedophile to have his pronouns recognised than it is to record the truth. That's how morally deficient transactivists have become.

Also this man does not have a GRC. He is legally male. We do not have self ID in this country so how the hell did we get to a place where the judiciary use preferred pronouns for a fucking paedophile?

Because everyone has bought into the "people are what they say they are" shite. It's gone too far to argue with facts like the law. It's become self-confirming.

This is really beyond the pale. Just sickening that one of the main news sources for British people and also for people around the world, would print an article based purely on a central lie. A complete denial of reality.
How can this actually be happening?

I put a complaint in to the BBC about their factually incorrect reporting. Everyone in the NW knows what's what here.

@StealthPolarBear

What a sickening crime. When they say she made images as well what do they mean?

I believe that ‘making images’ can refer to the act of saving them rather than actually taking the photographs.

Why the fuck is the BBC calling this man a woman?

This is not the first time the BBC have called a transwoman criminal a woman. I complained back in 2016 when they reported on the trial of murderer Claire Darbyshire, who was described as 'the daughter of Brian Darbyshire'. 'Claire' murdered 'her' dad.

They kindly replied and informed me that (I've resurrected the email) - 'whilst Claire Darbyshire was born with name Christopher, she changed her name to Claire by deed poll back in 2008 and is pre-operative transgender. The manner in which we have referred to Ms Darbyshire reflects that of numerous other UK media outlets.'

This was in March 2016. They've been at this for a long time.

I believe that ‘making images’ can refer to the act of saving them rather than actually taking the photographs

No it means taking the photographs.

She downloaded around 80,000.

These cases just open your average Joe up to what’s going on. It serves to ‘peak trans’ the masses and undermines their cause entirely. If I were transgender I would want to distance myself from these people as far as possible, not defend their right to their pronouns!!

I am so angry.

It seems he isn't going to actually go to prison (this time), so at least women prisoners are spared his presence.

But I wonder which hospital ward he was on - and which hospital ward he will be on the next time he needs investigations, now that he has discovered the advantages of presenting as a woman

@KayakingOnDown the act of downloading creates an additional copy, that's what it means.

I haven't seen it clarified anywhere, which ward he was on.
Mind you, no man wants to be on his ward either.