Goodness hoodathunkit you know a lot about this topic. Is there anyone trying to prevent this who isn’t dodgy.
Firstly, I know enough about this to know that there is a whole lot more that I do not know about. Beware of anyone who attempts to be a figurehead, leader or person with expertise in relation to the issues. I know a vast amount but there is so much more to know about and all my findings are provisional until validated by evidence. I am in possession of a lot of evidence, an overwhelming amount in fact. However, even with evidence, one has to maintain a position of not knowing and of being open to new evidence.
Image those traditional Russian nesting dolls. You look at one and inside is another, the another. Or a hall of mirrors where it is almost impossible to know what it real and what is a reflection. This is the challenging situation in which we find ourselves. Multiple layers that appear to be real, but that may be illusory. Holding on to not knowing is incredibly important.
Secondly, being an ordinary member of the public I sometimes (quite often in fact) make mistakes. I try hard not to, however I have been exhausted and running on empty for a long time and due to my refusal to accept a diagnosis of DID (and all the many benefits that come with it, especially if one joins the SRA promoting circus) I am living in extremely challenging circumstances. The incredible stress of my every day life means that I may make mistakes. I am not perfect by a long shot.
Thirdly, re people being “dodgy”. Unfortunately, in the world of body psychotherapy, body memories, recovered memories of satanic ritual abuse, new age quack psychotherapies and the like, the whole arena is full of well meaning useful idiots, vulnerable people who have been manipulated, naive well meaning therapists and some very serious criminals and sexual predators. I am not always in a position to say who is “dodgy” and who is a well meaning person caught up in a cultic milieu.
In the case of, for example, Bessel van der Kolk it is incredibly easy to identify some seriously dodgy activities and connections that it will be my pleasure to share with readers. I will illustrate my concerns re van der Kolk and his associates on another thread.
Just very briefly, Bessel van der Kolk is an academic fraud, is married to a trainer at the Source School of Tantra (an extremely controversial organisation facing multiple allegations of rape and sexual abuse), had / has? a close working relationship with the disgraced former Rabbi and paedophile Marc Gafni and was sacked from his position at the Trauma Center for his misogynistic bullying of female colleagues. These are not unfounded allegations. The evidence is easily found all over the internet by anyone who can be bothered to look.
The terrifying thing is that Bessel van der Kolk is promoted as reputable by countless psychotherapists and psychotherapy training courses, as evidenced by some of the posts on this thread.
I will start a new thread on psychotherapy and cults to help educate readers about some of the centrally important issues.
Quite often the source of important stories are not themselves squeaky clean.
Of course. Nobody on the planet is “squeaky clean”. There is a huge difference between “not being squeaky clean” and being a major promoter of SRA conspiracy theories and claiming to be an SRA survivor.
For me the issue is not the messenger but that appears to be an attempt to rebrand padopphilia as a strand of sexual expression of "minor attracted person”.
For me the issue is that whatever battle we are fighting, whatever hills each of might fight and die on, our cause will be astroturfed and appropriated by sinister forces, very often using a vulnerable adult as a human asset.
It is also not uncommon for the astroturfing agent to be subjected to extreme bullying via twitter and other social media. This wave of bullying gives them credence and enhances their “brand” as a leader, victim and survivor. It also makes it difficult for any skeptical persons to express skepticism without being vulnerable to accusations of being a bully.
As for the MAPs issue. It may be that the term MAP has some milage in terms of professionals working to prevent child sexual abuse who work with a cohort of people who may pose a risk of contact offending against minors but who have not yet contact offended. It may not. I do not know.
The term has definitely been appropriated by sinister forces and we can notice this and report it, but we, as always, have to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water. So, for the sake of argument, if an academic working with adults at risk of contact offending but who have not actually contact offended uses the term MAP in an academic paper does it mean that that academic is “dodgy”? I do not think that it necessarily does mean that. It may be that the term, in the literature, is used to describe a cohort that has been convicted for non-contact offences but not for contact offences Just thinking aloud. I am simply saying that we need to be alert to nuance in all situations and to beware of the pendulum swing from one entrenched position to another.
OK, so early this morning I did a bit of research and can demonstrate, fairly clearly, some fascinating issues.
This is going to get interesting.
I discovered a highly relevant narrative about MAPs on a fascinating website
This narrative is of interest to readers. It appears on a website for a project called “The Global Prevention Project" and it says:
"Minor attracted person or 'MAP' is a widely acknowledged term used in the global Sex Offender Research and Sex Offender Treatment Community.
We did not invent this term.
MAP is NOT an attempt to 'rebrand' or 'polish' pedophiles. MAP is an umbrella term that includes:
Pedophile: an individual attracted to a pre-pubescent child;
Hebephile: an individual attracted to a pubescent child (11-14) and;
Ephebophile: an individual attracted to a post-pubescent child (i.e., a teen, 15-19).
These terms define an 'attraction' not a 'behavior.' By using these terms we under no circumstances are condoning or accepting the sexual abuse of children. "
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200718090220/theglobalpreventionproject.org/maps" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20200718090220/theglobalpreventionproject.org/maps
Is the above linked project “dodgy”?
Earlier this morning I had no idea.
As with all thing we have to keep an open mind and examine the evidence.
Having spent some hours researching this It will be my immense pleasure to demonstrate the link between The Global Prevention Project, controversial “trauma expert” Bessel van der Kolk and false memories of satanic ritual abuse.
i need a rest, but will post soon, this is going to be fascinating.