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Could you trust a doctor who denies that biological sex matters?

55 replies

TwistedEyeOfHorus · 16/07/2020 21:31

Fortunately not mine... I'd be out of there like a shot! But a doctor I know of on Twitter who is trans shares very little about women and anything about trans issues. And this week he basically said that sex was a construct and gender the superior quality. It's not H, but is another one in the North West.
Would you trust a doctor who says there's no biological difference between transwomen and women? It worries me that he places his ideology ahead of his professionalism.

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EthelMayFergus · 16/07/2020 22:10

No, I wouldn't trust their medical competency at all.

wildone84 · 16/07/2020 22:10

Nope.

ToriaPumpkin · 16/07/2020 22:10

Nope. I've been dismissed by male AND female GPs in the past when it came to female specific health conditions so there is absolutely no way I'd be going to one who doesn't actually acknowledge sex.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 16/07/2020 22:12

I suppose, Xanthan, if they're broadcasting them on Twitter?

KenDodd · 16/07/2020 22:12

Thing is, I don't believe they do think this, not really. They know biological sex is real, everyone does. If you asked this doctor 'which sex carry and give birth to babies?' they're going to answer 'female' even if they don't answer 'female' and give some other nonsense answer, they know what the truth is.

wagtailred · 16/07/2020 22:17

No. Its hard enough to get listened to as it is. Im terrified of doctors anyway and seeing one that thought stuff like my skeleton etc wasnt real would be challenging for me.

Katypyee · 16/07/2020 22:19

@TwistedEyeOfHorus Being trans is not an ideology sigh.

SarahTancredi · 16/07/2020 22:24

nope. Its bad enough medicine for women is experimental half the time as it due to everything being designed fir men. Last think we need is drs who think female side effects are in our heads like the female sex is in inside a man's

KatherineParr4 · 16/07/2020 22:27

No way.

frog22 · 16/07/2020 22:30

Would you trust a doctor who says there's no biological difference between transwomen and women?

Do you have a link so we can read what he said?

PennyNotSoWise · 16/07/2020 22:35

[quote Katypyee]@TwistedEyeOfHorus Being trans is not an ideology sigh.[/quote]
No, but denying biological sex exists is ideology, sigh.

AMostExcellentStick · 16/07/2020 22:44

I think this is where people who say this kind of stuff have no idea of what's really happening. If you actually questioned him, I bet he would say that obviously medical records would have to show biological sex, and obviously people should receive medical treatment according to that sex, not gender. But he would be totally disbelieving if you told him that no, certain activists want to remove all sex markers from records, and want to be treated in literally every way as their chosen sex.

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FloresTorres · 16/07/2020 22:48

Don't you have to study biology to be a medical doctor?
Or are there exemptions now?

LockdownLump · 16/07/2020 22:52

I know the doctor you mean. I went to tell them about my awful period pains. They said "Ooh ee ooh ah ah, ting tang wallah wallah bing bang"

Oh sorry, that was the witch doctor.

My mistake.

Broomfondle · 16/07/2020 22:56

I'd be interested to see what he actually said.
It's not just sex specific illnesses, loads of generic stuff in medicine is sex based. Parts of routine blood tests would have different 'normal' values for M vs F. And conditions common to to both men and women can present differently in each sex.
It is part of being a doctor that your beliefs shouldn't interfere with your practice, but that's a hard one to reconcile as it's so relevant to your practice.
If they said it's not as simple as XX and XY or something then that's technically true. If he thinks the whole thing is a societal construct I would personally choose a different clinician.

KatherineParr4 · 16/07/2020 22:58

I’m waiting for Woman’s Hour to be renamed ‘Person’s Hour’. I’m actually quite amazed it hasn’t happened already. Or ‘Human’s Hour’.

Redshoeblueshoe · 16/07/2020 22:58

No

Russellbrandshair · 16/07/2020 22:58

Would you trust a doctor who says there's no biological difference between transwomen and women

No I bloody wouldn’t and he wouldn’t be touching my bits that’s for damn sure!

PennyNotSoWise · 16/07/2020 23:11

@KatherineParr4

I’m waiting for Woman’s Hour to be renamed ‘Person’s Hour’. I’m actually quite amazed it hasn’t happened already. Or ‘Human’s Hour’.
It would have been 'Menstruator's Hour', or 'Ovary-Havers Hour' but that idea is soooo last week. Now biology doesn't exist, so neither does menstruation or ovaries. Give it another week, and we'll be stripped of our human status too.

What a pickle we find ourselves in 🤔

noimkaren · 16/07/2020 23:13

No. But how could you find out if this was their viewpoint before you saw them?

Trivium4all · 17/07/2020 00:33

Some time ago, during a non-female health problem, I decided to insist on my title (Dr) at my GP practice, rather than being "Miss Trivium4all". Disgustingly, I noticed a difference in the way I was treated almost immediately. I've become conscious of the way that the conversation changes, if I am addressed by first name vs. the GP being "Dr X", and my responding, "actually, if we're on last name basis, it's Dr Trivium4all". It shouldn't make a difference, but clearly does. Frankly, if I encountered a GP who claims openly to have less understanding of biology and genetics than I do (as a humanities person), then I would demand another GP. I've received some appalling (lack of) treatment, condescension, and minimising behaviour among GPs, not related to female issues, but in some cases possibly influenced by sexist attitudes (hard to say, which is really the nub of the problem: it's so engrained). I'm pretty vocal and articulate, and still had a lot of trouble getting any treatment for my particular problem. I dread to think of how a less articulate, more socially conservative person might have been treated in my place.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/07/2020 00:42

Would you trust a doctor who says there's no biological difference between transwomen and women?

Absolutely not, and no doctor I have ever known does.

notyourhandmaid · 17/07/2020 01:09

I'd find it tricky to believe that a practicing GP actually believes this stuff, but it would be a red flag in terms of how they're likely to treat women (not listening, not believing, not respecting, etc).

ChattyLion · 17/07/2020 01:10

No way.

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