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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Action Aid - no such thing as a biological female

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Apileofballyhoo · 15/07/2020 16:48

Has this been posted already? It's from an email they sent. I saw it on Twitter so I'll be back with links.

Action Aid - no such thing as a biological female
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EmpressLangClegSpartacus · 16/07/2020 20:08

@SarahTancredi

Was it Christian aid that made up all those boxes for kids then stuck all the religious leaflet in or was that another charity?
Samaritan’s Purse?
wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 16/07/2020 20:08

@SarahTancredi

Was it Christian aid that made up all those boxes for kids then stuck all the religious leaflet in or was that another charity?
That was Samaritan's Purse I think.

CA don't proselytise, which is a point in their favour.

DrDavidBanner · 16/07/2020 20:16

Wow thats great research Red Tooth Brush very scary indeed. The more I hear of these charities and NGOs the more I lose faith and I agree a full investiation needs to be had.

The only instance I can think of girls 'identifying as boys' is in Afghanistan but unsuprisingly that ends when reality bites.

I feel much like you @OldQueen1969 I don't know what we can do. I'm so glad there are tenacious, fearless women fighting this fight. Fortunately for me in real life the people I interact with are asking the obvious questions too.

Apileofballyhoo · 16/07/2020 20:18

CA don't proselytise, which is a point in their favour.

Wish the same could be said about TRAs.

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wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 16/07/2020 20:24

@Apileofballyhoo

CA don't proselytise, which is a point in their favour.

Wish the same could be said about TRAs.

Hahahaha bang on!
DianasLasso · 16/07/2020 20:32

The only instance I can think of girls 'identifying as boys' is in Afghanistan but unsuprisingly that ends when reality bites.

Also sworn virgins in Albania.

But both phenomena driven by the same thing - societal misogyny.

(Whereas I think "third sexes" involving biological men are on the whole driven by societal homophobia.)

Antibles · 16/07/2020 20:41

I am beginning to think this is the biggest intentional psychological warfare campaign / psy op ever perpetrated, and frankly alongside my confusion, and mounting anger, a frisson of genuine, gut wrenching fear is brewing.

Yes. And if you can make people believe/parrot the biggest, most basic and most ridiculous untruth - that men can be women and women can be men - all other lies will be a doddle to push after that.

There is something huge and rotten at the core of all of this.

Datun · 16/07/2020 20:53

@RedToothBrush

The Charities (Protection and Social Investment) Act 2016 was brought in to require charities to stop targeting vulnerable people or placing anyone under undue pressure to donate.

I think this was a result of some pretty awful examples in the past.

Good to know.

But i'm sorry to say, it doesn't restore my faith in the overall ethos.

scienceisfun · 16/07/2020 22:02

@DianasLasso

Who do we give to instead of Action Aid?

Plan International? Christian Aid? (Who, despite the name, don't push Christianity as part of their work - my staunchly and vocally atheist ex used to give to Christian Aid Grin. I was the Action Aid supporter in the household.)

Recommendations for charities who know that FGM, sex-selective abortion, infanticide, child marriage, denial of abortion rights happen because of sex not gender feelz.

I support a small charity that has no problem knowing what women are, they work in Malawi, mpsmalawi.org/

The girls that we sponsor all get sanitary packs so they don't miss school as the lady in charge of the education programme realised they were missing school due to not having sanitary products. We employ local people and pay them a good wage. To stay in the programme pupils they have to pass all their exams, however at the AGM we were asked if we could keep one of the girls on even though she had failed as she was at great risk of early forced marriage, if course the answer was yes.

The other part of the charity builds stoves, helps grow trees to stop deforestation and provides Wells for villages. All of which impact on womens lives.

(I'm only a supporter, and a sponsor BTW)

wellbehavedwomen · 16/07/2020 22:13

@SarahTancredi

Was it Christian aid that made up all those boxes for kids then stuck all the religious leaflet in or was that another charity?
No, absolutely not.

Samaritan's Purse is the grim conversion thing. I kicked up a fuss when that went anywhere near my child's school. Awful.

CA don't proselytise at all. Having said that, @wrongsideofhistorymyarse doesn't sound impressed. One of the things that really made me blink about Action Aid, actually, was the way an allegedly feminist charity focused on women and girls had such a male senior leadership team. And her experiences sound worrying - I've known a lot of people who worked for charities describe really toxic cultures, in fact. It's disheartening.

I think I've seen enough. There are excellent and targeted charities mentioned in this thread, and the other. Plenty of worthy causes that don't raise so many question marks.

SarahTancredi · 16/07/2020 22:20

thank you for answering everyone.i knew there was one there was one as I remembered the alternate Xmas box suggestions thread I just wasn't quite sure which one it was...

RedToothBrush · 16/07/2020 22:27

Samaritan's Purse. The one thing you are truly not allowed to discuss freely on MN. Nasty business that. They make Mermaids almost look friendly and reasonable.

shudders

Apileofballyhoo · 16/07/2020 22:30

And if you can make people believe/parrot the biggest, most basic and most ridiculous untruth - that men can be women and women can be men - all other lies will be a doddle to push after that.

That's already UK law, I'm sorry to say. It is in Ireland too.

...the Gender Recognition Act 2004 (“GRA”) which uses both “sex” and “gender” to describe the same condition (“Where a full gender recognition certificate is issued to a person, the person’s gender becomes for all purposes the acquired gender (so that, if the acquired gender is the male gender, the person’s sex becomes that of a man and, if it is the female gender, the person’s sex becomes that of a woman)”, s.9).

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Xiaoxiong · 16/07/2020 22:32

I'm a trustee of a small charity called the Mvumi Trust raising bursaries for girls and visually impaired children to attend school in rural Tanzania (and incidentally one of the only schools in the region to educate children with and without disabilities together, with huge positive impact on the acceptance of visually impaired kids, many of whom have albinism).

We definitely know which ones are girls - we have to raise 30% more money for girls' bursaries compared to boys, because we need to pay families money to allow their girls to go to school and the girls do better when they board as otherwise they are made to stay at home and miss school to help out with housework, and also when they are on their periods.

I would recommend looking for small kitchen table charities like ours who don't have professionals on staff to raise money or run the organisation. We are all just volunteers and beholden to nobody but our kids, our donors, our consciences and the charities commission, though I'd love to be beholden to FWR readers who would like to sponsor girls to go to school! Wink

Apileofballyhoo · 16/07/2020 22:32

uklabourlawblog.com/2020/02/19/the-forstater-employment-tribunal-judgment-a-critical-appraisal-in-light-of-miller-by-karon-monaghan/

I was quoting the law from the above article.

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ForeverFaithless · 16/07/2020 23:08

Another thank you to RedToothBrush for digging out the truth, and all the wonderful women on here who have helped me to open my eyes to the war against women.

OldQueen1969 I feel similarly to you, it is sometimes difficult not to despair of the whole human race.

EyesOpening · 16/07/2020 23:25

@HarryHarry

So what do they call the type of human who has the body parts previously associated with being female? There has to be a word for that. Or are we just going to pretend that we don’t need one?
the people with no name apparently
ShinyFootball · 16/07/2020 23:28

Oh I thought of that years ago on here

The order will be

Men
Women (who used to be men)
Men (who used to be women)
Non people

A fair few posters said don't be so silly...

ShinyFootball · 16/07/2020 23:29

Or just some reference to our vaginas. Cunt, gash, something like that, that has the advantage of being how lots of men see us anyway already.

ShinyFootball · 16/07/2020 23:32

Thank you for that post Xiaoxiong.

Years ago on here when it was all fields I suggested a 'charity of the week/ month' thread that we could ask MN to pin and posters could suggest less known grass roots charities that supported women and girls.

Maybe it's time to resurrect that idea?

EyesOpening · 16/07/2020 23:58

I'm wondering if any one here finds having no name to call females, liberating at all? I'm seeing things on twitter and I just can't make sense of it all

Binglebong · 17/07/2020 00:02

Wow Red that was depressing. Thank you. I know you said that you don't want a blog as it hasn't the reach but would you consider applying to The Spectator? They are apparently looking for staff and you clearly have the skills.

That reply from AA that said girls and transwomen made me wonder- do they know that trans women are male? I'm just remembering the confusion of a lot of people new to this who believe that transwomen are women who are trans - in other words females looking male. Doesn't excuse the non biological bit but would make some sense.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/07/2020 00:20

would recommend looking for small kitchen table charities like ours who don't have professionals on staff to raise money or run the organisation.

I absolutely agree.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/07/2020 00:23

I am beginning to think this is the biggest intentional psychological warfare campaign / psy op ever perpetrated, and frankly alongside my confusion, and mounting anger, a frisson of genuine, gut wrenching fear is brewing.

Me too. Why are so many big organisations involved in this niche issue, to most people?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/07/2020 00:24

Yes. And if you can make people believe/parrot the biggest, most basic and most ridiculous untruth - that men can be women and women can be men - all other lies will be a doddle to push after that.

There is something huge and rotten at the core of all of this.

I've thought this for a while.