Change.org says it's discriminatory to say that women are raped because they are female

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Gender identity is not a 'protected characteristic'

Sex is. Gender Reassignment is.

Women and transwomen do not share a protected characteristic. BUT sex is being ignored in favour of 'gender identity'

I think we are in serious trouble.

If my memory is correct, wasn’t a women once told by a male bodied person who identifies as trans, that they had ‘cis’ privilege because they had an abortion?

Wasn't there a woman with cervical cancer whose transgender friend told her that that was a sign of her privilege and was asked to apologise for talking about it?

Where are all the angry trans voices onnthat twitter feed heckling everyone down? I assume they don’t want rape. It seemed they wanted cervical cancer as their own but not rape 🤦🏻‍♀️

The World Health Organisation (who are considerably more knowledgeable than the ignorant misogynists at Change.org) state that 1 IN 3women aged 15–49 years experiences physical and / or sexual violence either within or outside the home

That's a global figure found here:
www.who.int/life-course/partners/global-strategy/globalstrategyreport2016-2030-lowres.pdf

Is this really the considered opinion of the organisation or has (yet again) a rogue member of staff been trying to make policy on the back of a postage stamp based on their own prejudices??

You don't even have to subscribe to or reject some particular world view to understand this. It is just an obvious truth.

Which is the core of the whole thing.

The whole world, particularly females, must lie about reality at all times according to this week's preferences of the TRA political lobby. Everyone knows its a pretence, but you must do it.

It's increasingly reminding me of the North Korean leader funeral where soldiers with guns were monitoring the crowd to ensure everyone was crying sufficiently convincingly, with real threat for anyone caught being authentic. Or living their own personal truth. Or having independent thought. Or not performing the role at all times of Puppet In Someone Else's Best Life.

Bring on the batshit, let it all hang out in the sunlight.

I can imagine this was rejected for "othering" MTF trans people in language, and implying that they don't get raped, or aren't women, because women are female, in the same way that "only females get cervical cancer" apparently othered FTM trans people.

"Women who have been raped weren't raped because they identified as female, they were raped because they were born female."

Smartly demonstrating that Change.org do indeed know what biological sex is (otherwise it would be an uncontroversial statement) and think that "woman" is a gender term.

I think they should have offered the chance to tweak the wording, at least.

If my memory is correct, wasn’t a women once told by a male bodied person who identifies as trans, that they had ‘cis’ privilege because they had an abortion?

Wasn't there a woman with cervical cancer whose transgender friend told her that that was a sign of her privilege and was asked to apologise for talking about it?

Yes to both plus miscarriages and endometriosis, as examples I've seen.

On the plus side just think how many people will be peak transed by this, the more ridiculous they get the more own goals they score!

Oh ffs this getting stupid now, it really is.

Is this for real? Hard to tell sometimes. Horrible if true.

I've unsubscribed from all change emails and told them why.

@deepwatersolo

Well Plan, how do you explain that Ted Bundy didn’t rape males? Hm?

And how do you explain Ted Bundy being gang raped in prison if being female is the only cause of rape?

Just a reminder for those of us who like to inform our arguments with actual numbers rather than knee-jerk anti-women tirades:

"Data on the prevalence of sexual assault since the age of 16 by sex can be found in Appendix Table 1. Data from the Home Office Data Hub show that in the year ending March 2017, females were victims in 88% of rape offences recorded by the police, with the remaining 12% males (Figure 5)."
From www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/sexualoffencesinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2017

Over 98% of the people in prison for sexual offences are men.

So yes, this is an overwhelmingly (not exclusively, for those at the back who are a bit hard-of-thinking, but overwhelmingly) sex-based crime.

Please skip the whataboutery.

98% of all sexual offenders are male. This is a fact. The massive percentage of victims are female. This is also a fact.

It is ok for females to talk about female issues without patting and soothing males and ensuring they've been made the centre of attention first.

Do you know when people talk about male rape, no one ever pops up to say "but what about females?"

Crosspost with Diana who said it much better.

You have to consider too that Change.org was founded and is based in California, USA, a place where the legal crime of rape includes female on female, and female on male as well as male on female and male on male. They have a different concept of “rape” between adults.

In addition, child rape happens just as often to boys as to girls, so a female body isn’t a cause of rape in juveniles.

If you think about the word “because” that means the cause of or why a person is raped. Saying a woman is raped merely because she is female just sounds too much like absolving rapists of responsibility and their actual nonsexual motives in rape. It’s like saying oh, well what did you expect Miss X, you are a female and you went alone with a man so of course, being a woman is why you were raped.

Jessica Eaton's brilliant article: victimfocusblog.com/2018/01/03/stop-asking-me-what-about-men/?fbclid=IwAR1Vn--Fi0ZHs0JYqH0yzSxifxj2kqTh6vn39Oe0A_PG3oB2sAGP0Y0C5ek/

"Recently this has all caused me to reflect.
Why don’t I get any abuse when I speak and write about men and boys?
Why am I hailed?
Why did we win 6 charity awards and over £300k in the first 18 months of operation?
Why did I end up on every TV channel and radio in the UK? Why can I launch studies and campaigns and videos and appeals for TEF about male mental health and receive ZERO whataboutery comments?
And why do I get shouted down if I even dare post one tweet about violence against women or rape statistics or murders of women by partners?
Why do I get hundreds of messages and tweets every week asking me:
‘But what about men?’"

So, Plan, are you saying Ted Bundy did ask for pronouns first?

@deepwatersolo

So, Plan, are you saying Ted Bundy did ask for pronouns first?

What planet are you on? This has nothing to do with trans or pronouns. That’s the whataboutery

Jessica Eaton's blog post on this is fabulous, Michelle.

Saying women are raped because they are female is classic victim blaming. Might as well say:
women are raped because they dress too sexy
women are raped because they make bad choices
women are raped because they are asking for it

Any statement that starts out women are raped because they are ___. is victim blaming.

We should have a statement that says:
women are raped because men are bastard rapists.

Gosh plan do you think that's why change thought it was discriminatory - because it victim-blames women? Is there a second explanatory paragraph from them then? Because the explanation I see says they think it distr

Saying women are raped because they are female is classic victim blaming.

You mean, because women choose to be female...

Oops...

Discriminates against transwomen.

Thanks plan. Maybe you could let change know what they really meant...?

So, Plan how did the statistic improbability of Ted Bundy raping females only come about?

@PlanDeRaccordement

Saying women are raped because they are female is classic victim blaming. Might as well say: women are raped because they dress too sexy women are raped because they make bad choices women are raped because they are asking for it

Any statement that starts out women are raped because they are ___. is victim blaming.

We should have a statement that says:
women are raped because men are bastard rapists.

Dear god, you really don’t care how many female rape victims you offend or distress, in your determination to twist things to the advantage of those not born female, do you?