Fecking gender on school forms

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Dd2 starts high school in September. The usual forms are now online. For her sister I was able to cross out gender and write sex as it was a paper form. The online system wants to know "gender assigned at birth" and as it is a required field then I can't fill in the rest of the form until this is filled in. I have emailed school to explain that she did not have her gender assigned at birth but had her sex observed. She does not have a gender identify but has a biological sex. They are a pretty woke school with mixed sex toilets and pride flags flying from every building. It is an excellent school otherwise I would have sent her to the Catholic one that doesn't engage in this nonsense. This pisses me off so much.

It’s everywhere. I deregistered from Mumsnet for a while and when I signed back up they asked for my gender rather sex

They don't have single sex toilets?
Do they have ones that are self contained instead? As in a small room with a full door and a toilet and sink inside?
If not isn't that against the law?
neu.org.uk/advice/standards-school-premises-england

What I don't get is if gender is supposedly some internal 'feeling', as trans people argue, how can it possibly be assigned to you at birth? It'd be the same as assigning someone as an introvert or an extrovert - we couldn't possibly know! It's pretty obvious that it is biological sex that is being noted, even by their argument.

I think you should maybe do some reading on gender. your child will thank you for it

Isn’t it strange but when people do read up on gender ideology they realise quite what sexist misogynistic clap trap it all is?

Have the school replied? Newrubylane below makes a good point. Must dig out my birth certificate but I'm pretty sure I wasnt assigned 'Socialist ' ...it sort of emerged later.

I think you should maybe do some reading on gender.

Be careful what you wish for...this, along with 'educate yourself' doesn't tend to end in the result you want.

The Karen reference is highly offensive and anti - woman.

However, I can't see how it harms you to complete a form asking what gender your child was assigned at birth. Some children have physical reasons for needing to be assigned a gender.

If you are fuming at the school already, you probably have chosen the wrong school. Far better sending her to a Catholic school, where she can take her chances with a religion that explicitly holds women as second class citizens, teachers that abortion and contraception are the devil's work, and institutionalized the cover up of pedophilia.

Similar story here. Local high school is very woke and mixed loos- with pink cubicle doors (sani bin in these ones) alternating with blue cubicle doors (no sani bin). 😣
Was chatting to a 16 year old boy about it and he told me the pupils have designated certain toilet blocks for girls and others boys- so boys upstairs, girls downstairs. Sensible kids. Idiot planners.

Both my kids school and out DOCTRS asked for gender instead of sex. A fair few complained and now its back to sex mind. But the sneaky attempt to get rid of even the concept of biological sex is frustrating to say the least.

I think what annoys me more than being asked gender (which I always cross out and write sex these days, online its a bit harder though) is that the answers are usually male/female. Neither of which are 'genders'..plus I don't see any situation where it would be necessary to know someones gender anyway..

Arf - *Karencockdestroyer’ obviously a fan of one of the legendary ‘cock destroyers’ who are held in great affection by many gay men/TransWomen and 3rd wave allies? They’re worth looking up just to educate yourselves on how far ‘short’ women they deem to be ‘Karen’s’, fall short of acceptable ‘femininity’. IYSWIM?

FedUpAtHomeTroels

I think they have been hoodwinked into accepting Stonewall/Mermaids version of the "law".
More people need to kick back against this rush to change to mixed toilets.

Yes, Catholic schools have their own issues. Apart from the gender nonsense I have been very impressed with the school. Dd1 has done two years there already.
School have said I need to fill in that section but will note my comments. Surely if I fill in that section I'd be giving false information?

The toilets are an ongoing battle. I posted here when Dd1 was in year 7 and not drinking or going to the loo all day because of it. They said she could have a special pass and use the disabled loo in another building She didn't want to draw attention to herself in that way. She just didn't want to share with boys.

Some children have physical reasons for needing to be assigned a gender.

No, not really. Nowadays, diagnosis of DSDs (aka intersex conditions) is much better than in the past. And anyway that's categorising the baby as Male or female based on medical evidence, not 'assigning a gender'.

Bercows could you try asking them how you find out which gender they were assigned at birth?

However, I can't see how it harms you to complete a form asking what gender your child was assigned at birth. Some children have physical reasons for needing to be assigned a gender

As a former midwife, I can confirm that I have never assigned any babies' genders, but identified their sex. Have I been doing it wrong all those years?

That comes across pretty snarky, apologies. This gender lark is starting to get to me!

Not any more snarky than it needs to be, @RosieHen - this ridiculous shite calls for a great deal of snark.

After all, what do they think you do? Pop a crocheted sorting hat on the baby's head and wait for it to produce a puff of pink glitter or a squirt of blue mist?

So write to the school and tell them.

It really isn't that big a deal.

Oh dear. I would not have been happy with those alternating pink and blue alternating doors! As a teenage "menstruator" (🤦🏼‍♀️) I would have been looking for the security of a pink door flanked on both sides by another before I felt comfortable. The thought that a couple of curious boys might have conspired to bracket me and peer over or under the partition for a personal sex-ed lesson at my expense might have meant several days off school each month! 😲

Why not tell them you can give the child's sex but their gender is their own affair? The two words mean quite different things, and I'm not at all sure a school has the right to ask about gender.