Kasabian hot on the heels of Richard Madeley

[Jeanhatchet]

Kasabian issued a woeful tweet statement before Tom Meighan, their singer, was convicted of domestic abuse and (insultingly to his victim) given 200 hours of community service.

Apparently she refused to support a prosecution and so the sentence was lighter. The judge said he "could" have given a jail sentence and of course he SHOULD have.

It takes abused women a long time to look back and dismantle what was happening to them. Whilst they do that they should still receive justice appropriate to the crime against them.

But ... point here is that between men who should know better ... Madeley ... and men who just want to make money and not bother themselves with women's "problems" ...Kasabian .. it's clear that there is still an awful lot of awareness raising to do.

Kasabian initially issued a statement talking about "Personal issues ..affecting his behaviour" without condemning that behaviour or mentioning support for the woman affected by it. They have been slammed extensively and have tried to amend with something even worse. It ignores the victim ... mentions domestic abuse without any level of understanding beyond the words themselves and offers zero apology for the damage they have done to victims with their previously flippant post and without any message of support to Meighan's victim Vicky Agar.

There is still much work to be done.

What has Richard Madeley done?

The initial statement was before the resolution of legal proceedings no? They have been quite clear in opposing his behaviour since I think. Personal problems may be relevant or may be a ruse on his part. Its hard to know.

www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-53248770

I hope his ex wife/partner is getting help and support.

"The initial statement was before the resolution of legal proceedings no? They have been quite clear in opposing his behaviour since I think. Personal problems may be relevant or may be a ruse on his part. Its hard to know."

It was before the resolution but so appallingly worded nevertheless. It shows a willingness to distance without condemning and even offering support. They knew what he had done. They could either condemn or wait and say something appropriately condemnatory and in support of his victim once trial concluded.

What rings through the whole thing is a lack of understanding of domestic abuse ... alcohol/stress etc don't take a woman, with red marks around her neck, by her ankles, drag her outside and threaten to beat her before her child. A man does that. They have conveniently left out mention of the man and his actions. They are concerned at him "misleading fans". They are concerned about money.

Placemarking to find out what RM has done.

They sacked him, really you want more than that? You wouldn't lose most jobs for a DV conviction.

The band didn't write his sentence

@Floatyboat

The initial statement was before the resolution of legal proceedings no? They have been quite clear in opposing his behaviour since I think. Personal problems may be relevant or may be a ruse on his part. Its hard to know.

That's how I would read the statement too. It's incredibly easy to cause a court case to collapse (I'm old enough to remember the Sunday Mirror screwing up the Bowyer and Woodgate case).

Now, post verdict, they've been free to say what they really think. I'm personally not seeing this as mealey-mouthed.

Ah! Just seen the link above. Thank you Jean.

He should have been jailed.

What’s with unpaid work ?

Jail is the only place for that man

I don’t see a problem with the second statement from Kasabian. They’ve said they don’t condone domestic violence and that’s its never acceptable.

Kasabian initially issued a statement talking about "Personal issues ..affecting his behaviour" without condemning that behaviour or mentioning support for the woman affected by it. As others said, they released that statement prior to the court hearing and under the impression he was going to plead guilty. At which point it may have been more appropriate to support him, and his gf, through his 'personal issues'.

But he didn't. So they, when legally able to, posted an update and voiced their extreme disapproval!

God, that came out wrong!

I started a threads about this yesterday. I was angry with the initial statement but glad they followed up. Tom Meighan is a shit. The band aren't responsible for his actions.

They sacked him! The initial statement was before the court case, the full statement yesterday was very damning towards him. What else could they do? If anything they did more than you would expect as it's actually disadvantaged them. They are a nice bunch, friends of a friend situation. The cps prosecuted despite the partner refusing to cooperate or raise a complaint (there was cctv) so even if it was an ongoing pattern of behaviour, the prosecution was limited to that footage. He needs help for sure and at least he can afford to pay

I think the editing of The Kasabian statement is very unfair. I doubt very much that keeping him in the band would have affected record and ticket sales.

I've no issue with what they've said.

I've no issue with what they've said.

There is no mention of what they find abhorrent. Just the standard "domestic violence is bad".

No voice of support for his victim or apology for how their initial statement would have affected her or other victims and survivors. A strong focus on the damage to fans. Not women.

I suspect they felt it wasn't their place to set themselves up as experts on DV when they aren't.

Fucking hell, Kasabian. Won't be listening to your derivative dross any more.

They’re a band issuing a statement to fans. They’ve made it clear that they think it’s wrong and they’ve explained their initial statement.

It’s not the band’s responsibility to educate others. I don’t share your view at all OP.

Their statement is fine. It really is. You have picked apart what they said and read some hidden message into each part.
Most unfair.

Didn't the band say that the singer was meant to release his own statement (which he didn't do)?

I'm no fan of this band, but this isn't their fault.

I hope the victim leaves him, and that the child is getting counselling.