Facebook friend and trans rant

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I’m not supposed to be controversial on FB as it’s sensitive to my job ( child related). One of my gay male friends is having a massive pro trans rant specifically about JK R.

I’m finding it hard to not say something as I think we should challenge the nonsense. Any ideas of what I coukd counteract with that’s not transphobic in case he screenshots to employers?

I was thinking; “how are you defining woman? “ and leave it there.

I agree with the others - pick your battles and that sounds like it could land you in a whole world of stress. It may or may not be relevant to raise things obliquely with your employers - could you mention that people are experiencing safeguarding issues or have received incorrect copies of the EA 2010? Some of the pshe materials provided by Stonewall are aimed at age 4+ - esp. Pop n Olly (I watched one of the videos (The Ice Queen I think) and found it quite disturbing) so it might be relevant to introduce sensible materials via the Safe Schools Alliance?

How about "I haven't had time to read her blog post - what exactly did she say that was transphobic"?

I have to avoid pulling up people on their shit on social media due to my job too! It sucks! I would also get fired and never work in my industry again, as it's very "woke" and sways to every random social trend there is.

I've muted several friends who I adore but can't have a sensible conversation about this with. Actually a few have been totally deleted but it keeps the peace and my blood pressure down.

Good luck! It's a hard hard road to navigate. I only ever broach this topic in person and/or no written evidence can be used against me.

What was it he said that you disagreed with? I think it's important to remember that unless is actual sexism of anything "phobic" that he is entitled to his opinion just as much as you are. Fair enough you can disagree with him and have a discussion about it but to dismiss someones opinion as nonsense because you don't share it is just immature.

But, like I said it really depends on what he said as I don't know that, my above suggestion is just generalised. Also before everyone pounces on me I don't think JK Rowling deserved the abuse she got. There is a way to respectfully disagree with someone without making threats of violence.

I unfriended my friend that was ranting about JKR, you’re not going to change their mind and they’ll only insult you anyway. It’s really not worth interacting with them so far as I can tell, if they’ve decided she’s a ‘bad’ person then either they’ve not read what she wrote or they’ve read it and have no empathy with women at all.

@WhereYouLeftIt

How about "I haven't had time to read her blog post - what exactly did she say that was transphobic"?

Actually I love this and it's an amazing come back to their shit. Unfortunately it could still backfire on you but you might at least make some else raise their eyebrows at this shit.

I would not underestimate the importance of laying a quiet history of GC behaviour given that there are bound to be future inquisitions as awareness grows about what is being done to children where their life features ASD, CSA, homophobia, extreme sexism, ROGD peer groups, etc. There will be a tipping point.

Hide his post and ignore. No good can come from engaging on Facebook. You can talk in person some day of you feel the need.

It's a free country she is entitled to voice her view- but I wouldn't say anything not worth it.

GreytExpectations He’s said lots about JKR being transphobic ( I don’t think that’s true), lots about mental health struggles ( which obviously is true but we try and make other people with MH issues see reality ie don’t kill yourself/ your baby/ your partner) and Trans Woman are WOMEN, always in capitals.
He’s allowed a view but it’s annoying he’s allowed this view without discussion or disagreement.

Yeah just reply with the Medium article; "JKR Story in Screenshots" and a link to her blog post, then unfriend.

How about posting:

I am pro safeguarding, and cannot, in all conscience agree with anyone who thinks it is in any way O.K. to post Dick pics on a thread to showcase children’s artwork. No mater how strongly they feel,about a subject, that was utterly abhorrent, bordering on unhinged.

He can’t disagree without looking like an utter twat in front of,his Virtual woke mates. And it might get the lurkers thinking.

It also sets you up nicely as a ’safeguarding first’ sort off a person, should your employer ever get wind of it. (And i feel yr pain. I aren’t allowed political or contraversial opinions on social media. Greives me that safeguarding women and children cagoule be considered controversial)

You can just unfollow people on Facebook so that you're still friends, you just don't see their posts. That way they don't take it personally.

He's just one of many. When my finger hovers over the reply button I stop myself and move on. You can't take on the force of the Twitteratzi / fuckbook crowd so best defriend and leave him to it in his echo chamber.

He's just one of many. When my finger hovers over the reply button I stop myself and move on. You can't take on the force of the Twitteratzi / fuckbook crowd so best defriend and leave him to it in his echo chamber.

So good I sent it twice!!

medium.com/@rebeccarc/j-k-rowling-and-the-trans-activists-a-story-in-screenshots-78e01dca68d

I mix funny coronavirus memes and general interesting articles or cute cate pictures with really hard hitting feminist essays centering women and highlighting why feminism matters.

I find the men in particular can't work out how to comment.

It's my constant Social media passive aggressive approach.

Don't risk getting strung up by a twat like that. Either unfriend or unfollow and just sit on your hands.

*cat not cate!

How about "I haven't had time to read her blog post - what exactly did she say that was transphobic"?

Yes that's good!

Honestly, don't rise to it. Unfriend and move on.

It's a cult. You can't argue with people in a cult.

Just block him as he doesn’t sound like a friend you’d actually miss.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

How about "I haven't had time to read her blog post - what exactly did she say that was transphobic"?

Yes that's good!

I agree - I think this is the kind of approach I'd take if I thought I could get away with pretending ignorance. But I think the wording is a bit obviously goady. How about just: 'I haven't had time to read her post - what did she say?'

Thanks all. I nearly asked what was transphobic but he had clearly posted that even questioning men are women ( if they want to be) as be transphobic, that I got too cross.

I have deleted him so I no longer have to see his posts. I will hopefully see him in the pub at some stage to have a chat about it.

Please bear in mind that we need people like you in your roles. I've made this point to other people who work with vulnerable people, especially children. I can say what I like as I'm not fireable, thankfully. Social pressure is less than fun at times, but it's been startling how many women PM excitedly to agree - and how many silently like, too. There are more of us. We're just dealing with regulatory capture, but the vast majority of the public don't agree with this idiocy, either. Including most trans people.