What are the other sexes?

[MondayYogurt]

We're being told constantly that there is a spectrum of human sex (not gender, that's at about 4396 variations at last count). Sex.

I know of:

1. male
2. female

Can we start asking what all the others are called please?
I mean the rainbow is a spectrum and I can name all the colours...

It would certainly be strange if no one could answer past those first two.

1. Clownfish?

The question for which there is no answer. I am so tired of seeing people try to pretend that the function of the sexes isn't related to reproduction.

Margaret Atwood thinks it's barramundi.

Seriously though, the answer to the question is always differences of sexual development and/or flouncing.

Should have specified human sex OP.

@Doyoumind

The question for which there is no answer. I am so tired of seeing people try to pretend that the function of the sexes isn't related to reproduction.

The answer will be either:

Um..

TRANSPHOBE!!

You see you probably didn't know this but I, a genius expert, am here to tell you that people called "Intersex" exist.

But what I really want is to know the NAMES of these other human sexes. Ideally with some photos.
Treemale? Bazeemale? Sesamemale??

I find that reading Dr Emma Hilton's tweets (FondofBeetles) and Colin Wright to be great at making that very point. What is this third sex?

From reading their responses, some of the best include (and I am paraphrasing so I might allow some inaccuracy to creep in):

If there is a third sex, what part does this play in reproduction?
All people with DSDs can be categorised as either male or female with today's resources.
If you are putting people on a spectrum of maleness/femaleness who gets to decide who is more or less male/female?

There are plenty of great discussions to be had. Those who talk about the third sex seem to always refer to DSDs which is ignores the requests from those with DSDs who would prefer (and those who have specifically requested) not to have their lives used to theorise gender ideology.

People just flat out deny that sex refers to potential for sexual reproduction.

The world really is getting stupider, I fear.

Didn't multiple sexs come from one of those hoax papers designed to show how ridiculous academia has got?

Happy to be corrected there.

Either way multiple sepsis another consequence if being so determined to be seen to be on the "right side" that they end up backing themselves into a corner where there's no choice but to go along with this shit whilst half the people they think they are being allies to are probably at home finding it hilarious what they can get people to do.

multiple sexes

Interesting auto correct

Tumblr has informed me that fern and rose are genders, as is fire, so maybe they can be sexes too?

I think the cultures that treat anybody who doesn't identify as make or female as a third sex have got it right. A third, different classification.

Of course that doesn't mean that I agree that there are more than two sexes.

Women who don't ovulate, have periods, were born without a uterus, have had mastectomies etc, are still women.

Men who have been castrated, have impotence, are infertile etc are still men.

People who have disorders of sexual development are exactly that - something went wrong with the development of binary sex.

DSD is not the same as trans, and intersex people want to be left alone from what I hear.

I think the cultures that treat anybody who doesn't identify as make or female as a third sex have got it right. A third, different classification

Until they go missing/get lost at an airport/commit a crime/leave something somewhere or anything that requires someone to have to announce or give a description in order to find them/help them.

I think the cultures that treat anybody who doesn't identify as make or female as a third sex have got it right. A third, different classification.

What is the classification of though? 'Sex' refers purely to the reproductive capability of each class. If they don't 'identify', are those cultures talking about something like 'gender identity' rather than reproductive sex?

Where those cultures might be said to be getting it right is in that they fully realize that humans can't change sex and that the third sex classification is just a courtesy title. It's pretty much always rooted in homophobia, though, and that's not so good.

I'm no expert but aren't those examples of a third sex in some cultures historically just a way of homosexuals being classed as 'other'?

You see you probably didn't know this but I, a genius expert, am here to tell you that people called "Intersex" exist

People who have disorders of sexual development are still either male or female. A third sex does not exist in humans.

They are either

1. female with disorders of sexual development or
2. male with disorders of sexual development

It's very simple.

It's only the gaslighting that makes anyone question it.

Margaret Atwood thinks it's barramundi.

oooh! now I really, really miss a good Barra and chips eaten on the beach.....

What is the classification of though? 'Sex' refers purely to the reproductive capability of each class. If they don't 'identify', are those cultures talking about something like 'gender identity' rather than reproductive sex?

Yes they are obviously talking about a gender identity rather than a sex.

@TheProdigalKittensReturn interesting point about rooted in homophobua, I hadn't considered that thanks.

@SarahTancredi is it though? I'm very open to being wrong here but I think if the culture is used to a classification of 3 rather than 2 categories, it's surely just the same looking for them as it is looking for a man or a woman? The sex of the person you're looking for is useful, but arguably their gender identity is even more useful. Knowing that they're somebody who doesn't identify as their sex class is also useful.

@Winesalot

Margaret Atwood thinks it's barramundi.

oooh! now I really, really miss a good Barra and chips eaten on the beach.....

I know, I'm really hungry for fish and chips, but we just got locked down again for 6 weeks, sob.

Third sex cultures just don't want to admit that men can be gay and/or want to present in a feminine way. So they give them off into the third sex, so manhood doesn't get contaminated.

I watched an interesting docu once, about a girl whofelt, in her traditional culture, she was 'third sex'. She may have just been gay. Anyway, the whole third sex thing was celebrated, and because she now wasn't one of the girly girls, she was allowed to lead a boys only choral/dance performance. She was really happy.

But what I noticed in the docu is her female peers, and how they were not allowed to take part in this powerful performance, and instead they did some kind of sing with dolls?

And I thought that maybe, instead of having third sexes, societies could just stop being so bloody sexist, and let both sexes take part in meaningful cultural performance.

is it though? I'm very open to being wrong here but I think if the culture is used to a classification of 3 rather than 2 categories, it's surely just the same looking for them as it is looking for a man or a woman? The sex of the person you're looking for is useful, but arguably their gender identity is even more useful. Knowing that they're somebody who doesn't identify as their sex class is also useful

How is gender identity useful? Clothes and hair are disguises if you tell someone you are looking for a woman as that's how they present then all they need to do is put a hat on change into some "mens" joggers and off they go on multiple buses and trains while everyone's looking for the wrong 50 percent of the population.

I have no idea why I would need to know someone's gender identity. That's so weird. How is it useful to know that info?

When you can show me a third gamete I'll believe humans have 3 sexes.

So it's

1. female
2. male
3. the third one

Is that the official title?