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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Opt out of organ donation

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Wolfgirrl · 29/06/2020 13:31

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-woman-should-allowed-womb-22270768.amp?__twitter_impression=true

I cannot be the only one to think the new opt-out organ donation scheme will result in a lot of wombs being stolen without permission, if this comes to pass?

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JonHammIsMyJamm · 30/06/2020 14:11

Yes. Globally poor women are already at the mercy of wealthy baby hunters willing to exploit their bodies at any cost, this will just make things worse.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 30/06/2020 14:26

Gasp those Twitter yearnings for a uterus are actually disturbing Confused

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 30/06/2020 17:32

@BiggerBoat1

Who cares? You'll be dead.
I care I opted out because womb wasn't one of the organs listed. And I'm not taking a chance. I originally wanted to just opt out of tissue donation but then thought about it further and simply opted out completely. I am aware though that there are very few scenarios in which organs can be harvested. But it would be interesting to know where those who espouse transwomen having babies think the wombs are going to come from. Certainly not from me.
JonHammIsMyJamm · 30/06/2020 17:52

Unfortunately, there are plenty of brainwashed young, woke handmaidens willing to share, @TheWordWomanIsTaken.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 30/06/2020 20:19

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

I saw that crap on Twitter. Pathetic isn't it. They all are.

TyroSaysMeow · 30/06/2020 21:34

Ah just realised this thread is in the "feminist" section and it's the thought of it going to a trans woman that's the issue?

For me, no.

It's the concept of "deemed consent" I object to; as a feminist I have some pretty firm views about consent, and assuming that it's present without actually checking is a big no-no.

Bananabixfloof · 30/06/2020 21:47

Ah just realised this thread is in the "feminist" section and it's the thought of it going to a trans woman that's the issue

That's one issue certainly, although for the forseeable future not a big concern. My main concern is a sibling for my children being born from my eggs and or womb and neither me or my children knowing. Among other things.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 30/06/2020 22:29

Ah just realised this thread is in the "feminist" section and it's the thought of it going to a trans woman that's the issue

No. It would be going to a man. So that's the issue. HTH.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 01/07/2020 06:11

I opted out because of presumed consent.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 01/07/2020 09:40

@DanniArthur

Ah just realised this thread is in the "feminist" section and it's the thought of it going to a trans woman that's the issue? I consider myself a feminist in the sense I want equality so cant understand the issues with trans people.
Sigh. For the avoidance of doubt, I am on the organ donation register and have been ever since I was 18 (more than 40 years now). My next of kin know my wishes and I hope they would be respected. I've always told them once I'm dead I don't need any of my body parts any more, so I would be happy for any of my organs to be used to help another human being who is ill to get extra years of life and better quality of life.

It does give me pause to think that one of my organs might go to somebody who isn't a good person, e.g. a murderer, but that's extremely unlikely. It gives me no qualms at all to think it might go to a person who is of a different race or sexuality to me, or to a transwoman or transman. I don't hate people who are different from me.

Now that there is talk of parts of the reproductive system being transplanted/implanted, though, I want the right to opt out of that. This is a far more complex issue than, say, kidney transplants.

I feel for people who want to have a child of their own but can't. However, I don't see it as a human right to have a child by any means possible. In an overpopulated world we don't need to be focussing on finding ways to increase the number of babies being born.

In the current state of scientific knowledge, it's a very high risk even for a female. A male attempting to gestate a foetus after extensive surgery to implant a womb and other body parts from a dead woman would almost certainly fail. The welfare of the baby doesn't appear to be at the forefront of researchers' minds here. To be brutally frank, I would have grave concerns about any male who wanted to do this being suitable to become a parent. The enormous expense of even attempting this would not be money well spent, in my view, when there are so many other health issues desperately needing research, many of them to do with women's health and obstetrics.

So my long-suffering next of kin will be getting an addendum to my instructions. You can give permission for any body parts to be used for transplant except the reproductive system.

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