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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police accused of political correctness after issuing an appeal for a sex attacker WITHOUT mentioning suspect was a man wearing a woman's clothes

52 replies

PlatoAteMySnozcumber · 21/06/2020 05:29

Police issue appeal without mentioning suspect wore woman's clothes

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8443647/Police-issue-appeal-sex-attacker-without-mentioning-suspect-man-wearing-womans-clothes.html

DM granted, but outrageous example of pandering to the trans lobby at the expense of justice and common sense. How on earth can you catch an offender if you aren’t allowed to describe them? Are all offender descriptions going to be race and gender neutral for fear of offending people? Funnily enough they never seem to have a problem writing about Muslim terrorists, maybe the Muslims need a stronger lobby, they best get on Twitter.

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VettiyaIruken · 21/06/2020 09:49

And I've just read the assault was on a man. Equally horrendous but boy do I feel daft!

Whatsnewpussyhat · 21/06/2020 10:05

When a trans women commits a crime the headline always says woman.

If the tran woman is the victim the headline says trans woman.

Funny that. Almost like they have an agenda.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 21/06/2020 11:03

Funny that. Almost like they have an agenda.

Indeed - So just to check -

Transwomen suspect - state Woman - this is OK - this is NOT AT ALL insensitive to women or the victim.

Transwoman suspect - don’t provide any discription including ‘man in dress’ because this is insensitive to LGBT communities - but leaving the public at increased risk because the suspect is less likely to be apprehended is absolutely fine - never mind the victim.

Transwoman victim - state Transwoman

Transwoman - guilty - state Woman - no insensitivities here for victim or women incarcerated with them.

Therefore vis a vis - Transwoman = never a risk to others.

Policing without fear or favour - My arse.

Judicial system - blind for justice - My arse.

nettie434 · 21/06/2020 11:09

@PlatoAteMySnozcumber

www.google.nl/amp/s/www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/police-believe-man-sexually-assaulted-4204249.amp

This report makes it clear it was a man posing as a woman, not just a man donning a dress per se.

Thanks for that link PlatoAteMySnozcumber. So it looks as if the scenario I mentioned about posing as a woman (as opposed to being transgender) is what seems to have happened. Assuming this is the case, I actually think the lack of detail is not protecting transgender people at all but making them more likely to experience prejudice.
Ninkanink · 21/06/2020 11:31

This has happened before. It’s absolutely disgraceful.

PlatoAteMySnozcumber · 21/06/2020 11:37

But men wouldn’t just dress up as women to commit a sexual offence surely? Apparently that’s almost impossible.

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BaronessBrighterThanYou · 21/06/2020 11:40

Has the perp been named by the police?

stillathing · 21/06/2020 11:44

The stupid thing is, whenever I read of a typically male crime as being committed by a woman, I look extra close at the pictures and seek multiple sources. Whereas I don't always bother reading past the headline when typically male crimes are reported as being committed by men BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM and I am so horribly resigned and accustomed to the atrocious things male humans are capable of doing.

Aesopfable · 21/06/2020 11:44

Wasn't there another case of a man who claimed to be a woman who committed assault and where the police description was it was a woman who might be presenting as a man - or some such nonsense.

Ninkanink · 21/06/2020 11:45

Yes there was. I’m sure it was discussed here at the time.

Ninkanink · 21/06/2020 11:47

I think he might have been an escaped convict or on the run? But I can’t be sure. And the police statement on it was so vague, with so much deliberate obfuscation, that it would have put many women in direct danger. That’s iirc, but I do have a notoriously shit memory.

PopperUppleton · 21/06/2020 14:15

It's Lang's sacred caste again, isn't it? And the crimes will continue because it is seen that the police are too wary of upsetting the 'community' to do their job. Again. Different community, same old shitAngry

Ninkanink · 21/06/2020 14:16

It’s also much worse than just ‘political correctness.’

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 21/06/2020 14:27

The stupid thing is, whenever I read of a typically male crime as being committed by a woman, I look extra close at the pictures and seek multiple sources. Whereas I don't always bother reading past the headline when typically male crimes are reported as being committed by men BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM and I am so horribly resigned and accustomed to the atrocious things male humans are capable of doing.

Same. It makes me angry that I cannot trust the reporting of any crime commited by a female.

Shedbuilder · 21/06/2020 14:36

Haven't had time to read the whole thread but have read the Mail article. Why do the police think they might offend lesbians or bisexuals or gay men if they mention that the attacker was dressed as a woman?

LillianBland · 21/06/2020 14:40

@MadamBatty

the victim was male. I wonder did that have any bearing on the polices final decision to come clean?
No. They were waffling on about caring about the victim, whilst trying not to upset anyone in the lgb/T+ crowd. There was more consideration given to causing offence to other male bodied people, than there was to the poor victim. They should be ashamed of themselves. Fucking spineless, pandering prats.
SerenityNowwwww · 21/06/2020 14:42

I wonder if they will insists the victim calls his attacked ‘she’ in court.

Ninkanink · 21/06/2020 14:44

It’s just horrendous when you pick it all apart and see the very obvious hypocrisy and misogyny at play.

LillianBland · 21/06/2020 14:49

@Apollo440

Why is he being described now as man in a dress? Is this the new strategy? Trans don't commit crimes so when they do they automatically become men? Just fucking brilliant.
Because no true trans person would commit such a crime, according to the twitter TRAs. They’re basically excommunicated if they make that particular ‘priesthood’ look bad.
LillianBland · 21/06/2020 14:53

So it looks as if the scenario I mentioned about posing as a woman (as opposed to being transgender) is what seems to have happened.

That couldn’t possibly happen! We’re constantly told that no man would ever demean himself by pretending to be a woman or trans person, in order to commit a sex crime. So either the police are lying or the TRAs are. Hmm 🤔 I wonder which one it is.

StrangeTimes · 21/06/2020 14:55

Fuck sake!

MindTheMinotaur · 21/06/2020 15:07

www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/transgender-ex-soldier-child-rape-2888899

Please note, some of the details are distressing in this report. Not sure how the police original appeals, if there were any reported this. However, the write up is all over the place, he/she. It flags up issues around reporting crime but also the mockery of self-IDing -in some instances the offender turned up in biker mode and leathers. And shows how claiming transgender status disrupted rehabilitation.

I'm sure the reporting broke a lot of guidelines. In short though, do any of us want this released and anywhere near children?

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 21/06/2020 15:19

Would any of the many TRAs that lurk on this board like to comment on this thread? I'll not hold my breath.

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 21/06/2020 15:24

It appears that they appealed for witnesses, but omitted the fact that the attacker was a wing-ed pig. Sorry I mean 'a man in a dress'.

Cos, you know, letting the public know they were looking for a man in a dress is not at all a useful piece of identifying information.

www.herts.police.uk/news-and-appeals/appeal-for-information-following-sexual-assault-in-bishops-stortford-1221

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 21/06/2020 15:25

To be clear, no mention of the 'looking for a man in a dress' appeal was made until after he had been arrested.