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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Asda partners with Diversity Role Models and gets angry response to "love has no age limit" message [Edited by MNHQ at OP'S REQUEST]

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stumbledin · 19/06/2020 19:03

"Asda teamed up with partner charity Diversity Role Models to create a home learning pack for primary school children for ages three to 11, which was sent out to Asda customers and includes the controversial phrase in a section on challenging racism.

In an email sent out on Sunday afternoon from the store's clothing department George, it said: "We've partnered with Diversity Role Models because we believe in a world where everyone embraces diversity and can thrive.

"By teaching empathy, understanding and how to be a good ally to the LGBT+ community, we hope to eliminate homophobic, biphobic and transphobic bullying and language from the classroom for good."

But a section on the primary school pack has drawn fierce criticism online from concerned parents who claim promoting discussion of "love has no age limit" may be advocating underage sex."

www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/asda-sparks-furious-paedo-backlash-22201608

A letter to Asda regarding their ‘home learning’ packs - Safe Schools Alliance safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2020/06/18/a-letter-to-asda-regarding-their-home-learning-packs/

OP posts:
littlbrowndog · 19/06/2020 22:54

Well flippingfuming

Tell your son they are a supermarket selling food and clothes.

That’s it.

Who needs a supermarket educating our kids or anyone

They should stay in their lane and not be total tools

spottedelk · 19/06/2020 22:57

It's clear from the book extract that the child was performing oral sex on other children. It expressly says that the child didn't have sex with adults and felt that that would be wrong. Not good, but this is being exaggerated.

endlessginandtonic · 19/06/2020 23:05

It isn't being exaggerated.
It is talking about a six year child performing oral sex on numerous occasions and the author is describing themselves as sexually mature at that age.

Asda partners with Diversity Role Models and gets angry response to "love has no age limit" message [Edited by MNHQ at OP'S REQUEST]
Tanith · 19/06/2020 23:10

"It's clear from the book extract that the child was performing oral sex on other children. It expressly says that the child didn't have sex with adults and felt that that would be wrong. Not good, but this is being exaggerated."

It is not a book I want anywhere near my child! Nor should it be promoted to school-aged children.

endlessginandtonic · 19/06/2020 23:11

It isn't sensible to recommend that dc read a book by themselves that contains this.
There needs to be a safeguarding conversation around this at the very minimum before this happens.
Imagine if you as a dc are being sexually abused and you read this, there is nothing in that to suggest it isn't totally normal.
This behavior is totally out with appropriate exploration of bodies which some dc will do at that age.
It could be extremely damaging to some dc to have this normalized.
It is nothing to do with being gay.

HandsOffMyRights · 19/06/2020 23:14

Phew! A six year old child only 'did oral' many times, but at least they didn't have sex, hey?

Good grief Spotted how is this merely 'not good' or 'greatly exaggerated?'

FreeKitties · 19/06/2020 23:17

This plus the fucking nspcc telling children that sexual abuse is only when something doesn’t feel nice - where is this all leading exactly??

NoHardSell · 19/06/2020 23:17

@spottedelk

It's clear from the book extract that the child was performing oral sex on other children. It expressly says that the child didn't have sex with adults and felt that that would be wrong. Not good, but this is being exaggerated.
Not only not good but a huge huge huge safeguarding issue in itself with zero chance it should not be reported to social services and the police asap
endlessginandtonic · 19/06/2020 23:18

I feel desperately sorry for any six year old who has ended thinking that they are sexually mature and is providing oral sex to peers. Something has gone horribly wrong in their life and they have been terribly let down by adults around them.
But this cannot be normalized to other children, it is beyond irresponsible for us as adults to allow this to happen.

Datun · 19/06/2020 23:19

"It's clear from the book extract that the child was performing oral sex on other children. It expressly says that the child didn't have sex with adults and felt that that would be wrong.

Yeah that's quite smart, isn't it?

LangClegTheBeardedVulture · 19/06/2020 23:22

spottedelk

Okay groomer.

endlessginandtonic · 19/06/2020 23:24

The adults issue is irrelevant.
Six year olds don't get the idea to perform oral sex from nowhere.
There has been a link to an older more sexually person at some point who has introduced this idea.
It may have been to a peer who then introduced it to this child but this highly sexualized behavior wasn't spontaneously invented by six year olds.
This is a description of a sexually abused child sexually abusing other children.

endlessginandtonic · 19/06/2020 23:25

It is not appropriate it is picked up with a can of baked beans at ASDA.

spottedelk · 19/06/2020 23:26

FGS. People have been saying that the book extract gave details of a 6 year old giving an adult a blow job and enjoying it. That's completely untrue.

SignOnTheWindow · 19/06/2020 23:26

@FlippinFumin the 'Love has no age limit' bit in the primary pack and the page recommending Beyond Magenta in the secondary pack were removed shortly after complaints were made, which is why your son hasn't been able to find them.

spottedelk · 19/06/2020 23:27

I don't believe in lying in order to score a point. Especially when the lying is obvious.

endlessginandtonic · 19/06/2020 23:30

I was sexually mature

I used to love oral

This is being said about a six year old.
Who the oral is being given to is an irrelevance.

A non abused six year old child doesn't go round the neighborhood providing oral sex.

littlbrowndog · 19/06/2020 23:35

What is wrong with you spottedelk

A six year old child

Oral sex.

A six year old child

Thinkingabout1t · 19/06/2020 23:35

FlippinFumin, I'm used to feminism being attacked by right-wingers, but the attacks now often come from people who call themselves left-wing. Still amazes me.

Here's the Safe Schools Alliance link:
safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2020/06/18/a-letter-to-asda-regarding-their-home-learning-packs/

'Beyond Magenta', with its accounts of child sexual abuse by teenagers who don't even realise they have been abused, is a book that's on the learning pack's recommended-reading list.

Paedophiles use the slogan "Love has no age limit" to make child abuse sound sweet and romantic. It isn't. (It was slipped into in the learning pack with a photo of an elderly couple, which would otherwise seem a bit irrelevant to school students.)
affinitymagazine.us/2018/08/05/how-pedophilia-feeds-off-of-child-marriage-and-teen-hypersexualization/

Gay men and lesbians have pointed out that transgenderism id homophobic in persuading sexually non-conforming teenagers that they must be 'in the wrong body', when they are actually gay. See the LGB Alliance:
lgballiance.org.uk

Paedophiles are at least as likely to be heterosexual as homosexual. What we object to is the abuse of children.

I struggle to be coherent when he is shouting me down and calling me a bigot -- sadly that is the transgenderist style, shouting at women. I hope your DS doesn't proceed to their also-routine obscene abuse and death threats, not to his own mother! He probably will grow out of this adherence to this currently fashionable though misogynist dogma, at least when he has children of his own.

Best of luck, and well done for tackling this with him. Flowers

Thinkingabout1t · 19/06/2020 23:37

Ooops, typo: "transgenderism is homophobic in persuading sexually non-conforming teenagers that they must be 'in the wrong body', when they are actually gay."

endlessginandtonic · 19/06/2020 23:38

Also reading through this thread I'm not seeing anyone state that it was adult involved.
It is factually accurate that the six was old had normalized this sexual behavior.
Social services in the UK would start a child protection investigation immediately on getting this information.

spottedelk · 19/06/2020 23:49

Baroness Nicholson, in her letter to Asda, says that the teaching materials include reference to a 6 year old performing oral sex on adults. Which is very different from saying that the materials recommend a book which mentions oral sex between children.

Thelnebriati · 19/06/2020 23:53

Child on child sexual abuse is both a form of CSA and also an indicator of CSA.

Diversity Role Models doesn't appear to have published a safeguarding policy and neither does Asda.

''All organisations that work with or come into contact with children should have safeguarding policies and procedures to ensure that every child, regardless of their age, disability, gender reassignment, race, religion or belief, sex, or sexual orientation, has a right to equal protection from harm.''

''Setting up and following good safeguarding policies and procedures means children are safe from adults and other children who might pose a risk. This includes voluntary and community organisations, faith groups, private sector providers, as well as schools, hospitals and sports clubs.''
learning.nspcc.org.uk/safeguarding-child-protection/

spottedelk · 19/06/2020 23:56

Nobody has recommended child on child oral sex.

endlessginandtonic · 20/06/2020 00:00

mentions oral sex between children.

Oral sex between children is a clear indicator of significant child protection concerns.

Sexually active six year olds are a significant child protection concern.

The normalization of child sex is a significant child protection concern.

Pretty much all adults are aware of this on some level.