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Dystopian nightmare?

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PhilomenaRumple · 19/06/2020 17:19

Hello

I hit peaktrans about a week ago. Since then I’ve not slept through the night.

Everywhere I look, I see women silenced (or keeping silent), cancelled and losing jobs. I see us being erased by ‘woke’ companies and employers. Not to mention the harm being done to the LGB’s and children.

I’ve lost two close friends today because I’ve seen it for what it is and didn’t keep quiet.

I keep feeling like this is some weird 1984/Gilead sh*t and this only the beginning.

Can anyone give me some perspective on how they feel about this long-term and what will ultimately happen? I’m frightened.

In sisterhood ❤️

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hellandhairnets · 01/07/2020 17:55

All of it is so sinister and systematic.

It is systematic. This is what scares me too.

BUT they didn't bank on so much sunlight. They are definitely on the backfoot and are slipping up all over. The problem to me is that the reaction is too slow. It's so big—Goebbels' Big Lie style—that people just don't believe it's happening.

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LockdownLump · 01/07/2020 23:24

This OP resonated with me so much.

These issues are on my mind all the the.

I have deactivated Twitter, insta, Facebook.

It's seeping into my dreams!! 2 nights ago I dreamt I was in a female toilet in a shopping centre. There was one cubicle. There was a male toilet and no female toilet.

I was having a period and bled as I was on my period so heavily.

I was taking quite some time because I was washing my knickers and drying them under the dryer and making a makeshift pad out of toilet roll.

Ther was a self I'd male outside bashing and banging because I was taking ages. I heard a male voice and I told them to go use the male toilets.

The women outside were chastising me. Calling me a disgrace, a transphobe, all this shit.

It was a dream, but it was fucking horrible.

I empathise OP about how much it takes over your being, that the importance of it is uppermost.

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LockdownLump · 01/07/2020 23:25

*all the time

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Ginnyhip46 · 01/07/2020 23:28

You aren't alone. I'm here with you in solidarity. So are many others. We cannot be brainwashed and many other women are waking up. Trust yourself.

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FizzFan · 01/07/2020 23:31

I peak transed a couple of years ago and was a lone voice amongst my friends for a long while, but I’m noticing the tide turning

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Ginnyhip46 · 01/07/2020 23:32

Also we aren't alone! The most powerful writer who singlehandedly changed the face of the publishing industry, who tanks amongst C.S.Lewis and Tolkien is not only with us but our Shieldmaiden. If she can take it we can.

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Wondersense · 01/07/2020 23:45

Yep. I'm scared we're walking into totalitarian future.

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BlackForestCake · 02/07/2020 00:03

In the long run reality will win out.

If celebrities say men are women, if the media say men are women, if political parties say men are women, even if the law says men are women — it still won't be true.

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AdultHumanFemale · 02/07/2020 00:24

I hear you, OP. I started out as a staunch ally to my transitioning young niece, and hope to God that I have managed to atone for whatever damage Ì may have done in those early days, in the years since my experience with her ROGD ploughed me face first into peak trans.
I work in education and am taking every opportunity to call it as I see it, from a safeguarding, equalities and promoting the rights of women and girls angle, not to mention standing in solidarity with my science specialist colleagues.
Three good old male friends, one a psychotherapist who has been seeing referrals from the Tavi, another who manages a hospital trust and one who works in equalities for my LA are horrified at my position, and have exhausted themselves trying to make me 'more caring' as one called it.
I am heartened by the good humour, wit and sincerity with which the many women, whose tireless work on this issue I am eternally grateful for, go about their business on various platforms; this keeps me in good spirits. The other week, someone on Twitter congratulated Emma Watson on her performance in Little Menstruators, I'm still weeping.
This is a good thread, as it really is about the long game, with periodic 'shoulder to the door' moments; pace yourself, take your foot off the gas if you feel ground down and return renewed when you're fortified by the goodness, commitment and compassion this movement embodies.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/07/2020 00:30

It's seeping into my dreams!!

I had surgery last year and coming round from the general anaesthetic I thought that they had found out I didn't think TWAW and refused to treat me, and just sent me back out which would have pretty much meant certain death. Thankfully I was hallucinatingGrin

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PhilomenaRumple · 02/07/2020 10:43

If you type ‘Women murdered in 2020’ into Google, what results do you get?

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PhilomenaRumple · 02/07/2020 10:44

Or DuckDuckGo?

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PhilomenaRumple · 02/07/2020 10:46

They have taken over

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bluefishpot · 02/07/2020 11:56

I'm new on here - only recently started finding out all about this stuff after seeing things on Twitter. I'm just gobsmacked that it's even happening, any of it - how can our reality be getting so distorted that we're told it's wrong to state facts?

I feel worried for my daughter - when I said I supported JKR's stance, she told me she was disappointed in me. I asked her why, and pointed out some of the consequences of self-ID, and she just didn't have any answers, and sloped off to her room. The next time I tried to bring the subject up, she quickly shut me down, saying there was no point in discussing it. It worries me that she's so willingly and compliantly giving away her own rights to safe spaces and sex-based equality.

I'm so glad this space is here to discuss the issues without fear of abuse or being shut down. I haven't been brave enough to say anything to other family or on social media, and I would worry about being let go from my job if I was openly known to be dubious about self-ID and the possible consequences.

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