No ,mostly we wouldn't be fine about it actually

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www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2020/06/17/transgender-woman-violence-discrimination-daily-risks-column/3201398001/

Do we want you in our changing room? Do we want to take photos of you. Do we fuck. It's all about him. Not a care for anyone else.

Oh, FFS

I am in NO way fine about it and don't want that (clearly male) person in my changing room.

Apparently that makes me a 'random 'transphobe'. SO. BE. FUCKING. IT!

Her transphobic remarks nothing she said was transphobia...ffs

Where did JKR say firing people who were gay or trans was fine? I am sure she, as the rest of us, welcomes the Supreme court decision. Jesus fucking Christ they just make it all up in order to be the perpetual victims.

This is Charlotte Clymer pre-transition, BTW:
www.salon.com/2014/12/02/fast_company_promotes_live_chat_with_creepy_male_feminist/

Nothing this person has written is different from what we as biological women experience since time began.

Last year, I was sexually assaulted by a cisgender, heterosexual man in a public space. He groped me, and I was so shocked that I didn't know what to do

Yep. Men are violent. That’s why women need protection. Get angry at men please.

Ah, Charlotte Clymer. Who famously berated a white woman for identifying as black, then entirely without any sense of irony identified as both a woman and a lesbian.

Are they confused?

Our murders are somehow considered insignificant. Our bodies are constantly sexualized

It sounds like they are talking about biological women’s experience?

"Transgender and nonbinary people are constantly adjusting and revolving our lives around the preferences and feelings of cisgender people, not because we want to do that but because there aren't enough hours in the day to fight every battle and not enough rights to guarantee our safety."

You could say the exact same thing about women

Charlotte Clymer in a previous existence was considered by many to be verbally abusive towards women. Charlotte is also a 6foot + army veteran who would be unlikely to fear many people while out and about.

"I'm still not going to use itsshower facility. Too risky. Some random transphobe makes a fuss, and it becomes a whole thing. Not worth it."

Alternative: "I don't use the female showers because I'm male, and aware that 1 in 5 women have been raped, and that the majority have been assaulted or harassed by men. I'm also aware that even the woman fortunate enough never to have been harassed might not feel comfortable sharing a shower with someone male, no matter the gender identity. I respect women so I try not to make them uncomfortable."

The article posted upthread was very interesting.

Charles Clymer is dedicated to the cause of feminism and you and your magical vagina are going to believe him, like it or not

Last year, I was sexually assaulted by a cisgender, heterosexual man in a public space. He groped me, and I was so shocked that I didn't know what to do

Well mate, you're 6ft ex army so you could fight them off. A real woman would be in much greater danger.

So tone deaf, so explicitly narc.

Surely whoever commissioned that pile of shit is secretly gender critical? Because it couldn't be clearer how blatantly clueless Clymer is about the reality of women's lives. Not a thought about it must be like to be the victim of sexual assault if you're much weaker than your assailant.

Clymer neither knows nor cares about the sex to whom Clymer claims to belong. Not a scrap. The article displays Clymer's narcissism, solipsism and male socialisation in all their ugliness.

I've seen a lot of similar arguments from trans women over the last few days. Two points:

1. Why do these articles always appeal to the kindness of women? And why don't they get that women are concerned about the safety, privacy and dignity of other women, their mothers, daughters and sisters rather than the validation and comfort of some random on the internet.

1. Sometimes women don't want you around. If you'd grown up with female socialisation you would pick up on the cues when you're not wanted. We've done it ever since the school playground. Welcome to being a woman! This is how life works.

I am incredibly sorry that J.K. Rowling experienced sexual abuse. I really am. Last year, I was sexually assaulted by a cisgender, heterosexual man in a public space. He groped me

Written a week after the details of JK Rowling's abuse were made public.

She was not just 'groped'.

The hashtag stopclymer (fairly historic but always, it seems, relevant ) on twitter is illuminating if you are unaware of this person.

Our bodies are constantly sexualized

Thing is, Charlotte and friends think that "get your penis out of my changing room please" is sexualizing them. Noticing that they have a penis is sexualizing them, telling them that you're a lesbian and therefore will never ever want to touch said penis is sexualizing them.

Those who've been on the receiving end of an angry tirade from a male they've just rejected before may find all this very familiar.

Those who've been on the receiving end of an angry tirade from a male they've just rejected before may find all this very familiar.

I agree, and "Don't you dare tell me I'm not who I say I am" is familiar too.

Did Charlotte not famously on a TV debate physically threaten a right wing guest who refused to acknowledge that people can change sex or am I mixing Charlotte up with somebody else.

God the photos...always the same filters and angles.

Funnily enough they look nothing like the photos in real life , stood next to actual women. Answers would indeed be very different.

You're mixing Clymer up with the former pilot (whose name I don't remember either, but the victim of the threat was Ben Shapiro who's a rather small man and who the pilot could clearly have kicked the shit out of, and which the pilot threatened to do).

This article continually implies a position very few gender critical people would adopt and then shows you how unreasonable it is.

• I believe in protecting trans people's right to be employed, to not be harassed at work, to be treated respectfully
• I believe that trans women are vulnerable to physical and sexual assault and need protections

-I am in favour of provision in public places that ensures their safety -I believe that it is a condition that causes much distress

• I believe that people should be able to express their identity however they wish

None of this changes the reality that biological women should be entitled to separate spaces particularly in relation to sports, medicine or issues relating sex such as women fleeing abuse.

None of the above changes the fact that I think gender is a construct and that gender stereotypes need to be resisted.

None of the above changes the fact that children need to be protected from making life damaging or changing decisions about their body, when the objective evidence is that most (I don't claim all) children experiencing gender dysphoria do grow to accept their sex by going through and out the other side.

None of the above changes the fact that a small minority of men will use provision for trans people to gain access to vulnerable women and children.

Whatever you think about the trans debate, I have been so disappointed with people who I consider intelligent and feminist, blithely hanging on this person's every word and completely ignoring their past behaviour.

It's also funny that there are so many former military penis having TRAs whose way of behaving is so similar that people get them mixed up. Probably because from a female perspective one large aggressive angry male with military training is much like any other large aggressive angry male with military training in the one's immediate urge is going to be to get the hell away from them before they can hurt you.