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Newuser123123 · 14/06/2020 07:18

Just that really. You have sown the seeds with so many, and helped people understand the issues in great detail. You have inspired people to take action and supported people under attack. You inspired me to take my small action (the Jo Swinson woman call) and many others to chip away at this harmful ideology. It's been a tough few days with JK Rowling but this Times headline gives me hope. Huge thank you to you all,
Anna x

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Furx · 15/06/2020 19:30

@langkaw

Oh agreed. I was knee jerk woke about this at the beginning. Then I read and read and employed my critical thinking skills. Thank you for this.
Yep. me too.
sashagabadon · 15/06/2020 20:05

@MrsNoah2020

I honestly think that, if it wasn't for FWR, Maria Miller would have succeeded in changing the GRA and stripping 30 million women of their sex-based rights. No wonder the TRAs hate us Grin. And it's too late now - even if we got shut down tomorrow, the issue is in the public domain, thanks to some incredibly brave women: JKR, Janice Turner, Maya, Sharron Davies, Martina etc, and to male allies like James Kirkup.

For years, the biggest barrier to protecting women's rights was getting anyone to believe what was happening. Most of the public simply refused to believe that the government was planning - in effect - to remove all sex-based rights and facilities by allowing self-ID. Now the cat is out of the bag. For 15 years, TRAs have had it all their own way. Now, finally, the public is starting to wake up.

We have a hell of a long way to go: the reaction to JKR has shown us how far. But TRAs will never now get away with sweeping changes to women's rights without at least a debate. And that is massive progress.

Totally agree Plus other countries watch what the uk does. Some might call uk feminists transphobic but others are reading and learning

I sometimes hear that countries like NZ / ireland are just leading the world with their self ID policies.
I actually think it is the opposite.
Uk feminists are a couple of years ahead of these countries in talking / thinking about this issue but they will hopefully get there ( although further down the rabbit hole than the uk ever got)

MrsNoah2020 · 15/06/2020 22:08

@Fairenuff

I remember being in absolute despair when no-one would listen to us and all the media blanked us. The time of bomb threats, doxxing, no platforming, no debate, enjoy your erasure and the rest of it. And no-one would help.

Man Friday, Posie speaking out, the Woman = adult human female projection, sticker lady and Martina and Sharon being dragged down by the pile on. Where were the men? No-one would help.

I know it's no-where near over, we have barely begun but I was beginning to wonder if we would ever be listened to. I can hardly believe how widely this is being reported in the media now. JKR has helped by adding her sunshine to all our little beams and together we have created a massive spotlight.

So, yes, thank you so, so much for your bravery, intelligence, resilience and cake recipe humour that is getting us through this dark and difficult time.

Flowers Cake Gin

Oh yes, I forgot Man Friday - absolutely brilliant guerrilla campaign. And Helen Watts.
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