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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I’ve just come out as gender critical on FB

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idsisatwat · 13/06/2020 12:46

I shared a picture from ReSisters United comparing the public backlash (or lack thereof) between JK Rowling and John Grisham

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idsisatwat · 13/06/2020 12:46

And predictably am accused of being transphobic

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OrlandoInTheWilderness · 13/06/2020 12:47

Good luck. I daren't, I am a coward!

Collidascope · 13/06/2020 12:50

Tell them they're tedious, self-righteous knobheads with no capacity for critical thinking.

OhHolyJesus · 13/06/2020 12:52

My response is always why do you accuse me of being phobic? Why do you want to silence me?

Gncq · 13/06/2020 12:56

Ask why they support abuse?

BingBongSong · 13/06/2020 12:59

Good for you. I only post news articles, with a quote from the article as my header.

It's usually worth asking which part of what you've said, or what the article says, is transphobic?

I've been shouted down and deleted by a few people, which hurt and made me question myself at the time, but that's passed. We're all entitled to our opinion, and I'm guessing that you're not saying anything hateful in your comments.

Boireannachlaidir · 13/06/2020 13:00

Accuse them of being misogynistic then.

idsisatwat · 13/06/2020 13:00

Apparently TWAW and I’m supporting discrimination Hmm
I’ve asked him (because, of course it’s bloke who’s having a go) to point out what’s transphobic about what JK said, but no response.
It’s just so bloody infuriating

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Collidascope · 13/06/2020 13:02

Woman: adult human female. Males aren't female.

BingBongSong · 13/06/2020 13:07

@idsisatwat

Apparently TWAW and I’m supporting discrimination Hmm I’ve asked him (because, of course it’s bloke who’s having a go) to point out what’s transphobic about what JK said, but no response. It’s just so bloody infuriating
Because he can't. I had similar conversations with a friend (male but identified as a woman), who shouted at me lots, accused me of causing harm to trans people, then deleted me from his friends list.
ILikeyourHairyHands · 13/06/2020 13:11

I came out as GC on FB about five years ago, lost a couple of friends, gained more allies. The sky has yet to fall in!

SocialConnection · 13/06/2020 13:12

I don't dare say one single word in person or online. My professional and social name would be destroyed. Having said that, I almost never see anything at all on the subject said by friends in my various social media things. I wonder if everyone feels the same!

Goldencurtain · 13/06/2020 13:13

It might be worth pointing out the automatic women blaming he is doing there to go straight to 'TWAW' when actually JK Rowling was making a point about trans men.

YinMnBlue · 13/06/2020 13:16

Good for you OP. I wish more people would JFDI, especially those who wouldn’t have their jobs on the line.

Lucywilde · 13/06/2020 13:20

I want to but having discussed the issue with my brother who is gay and he took offence. He couldn’t understand why I take issue with this. Sad as he has nieces - and two of them have Sen so would be vulnerable.

justanotherneighinparadise · 13/06/2020 13:21

I refuse to be lectured about what a woman is by a man. It’s a lived experience, not a feeling.

MinorArcana · 13/06/2020 13:24

What’s John Grisham said?
A quick google search is just giving me stuff about his novels.

notyourhandmaid · 13/06/2020 13:56

@MinorArcana

What’s John Grisham said? A quick google search is just giving me stuff about his novels.
It's an old story now but I think OP is referring to this - www.forbes.com/sites/natalierobehmed/2014/10/16/millionair-author-john-grisham-says-not-all-men-who-watch-child-porn-are-pedophiles/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Obviously outrage and cancel culture has become worse since 2014 but...

ThePankhurstConnection · 13/06/2020 14:18

@MinorArcana

What’s John Grisham said? A quick google search is just giving me stuff about his novels.
"Grisham, who has sold more than 250 million books since "A Time to Kill" was published in 1988, says in another segment: "We have prisons now filled with guys my age, 60-year-old white men in prison who've never harmed anybody, would never touch a child... But they got online one night and started surfing around, probably had too much to drink or whatever, and pushed the wrong buttons, went too far and got into child porn." from The Telegraph.
ProfessorSillyStuff · 13/06/2020 14:22

to say that people shouldn't feel they need to change their sex or their physical body, so that people's perception of them lines up with how they see themselves, isn't undermining people with genuine gender dysphoria. It's actually very liberating and empowering, for people of all kinds, when you think about it.

ProfessorSillyStuff · 13/06/2020 14:22

it would be healthier for everyone, to care less of how others see them.

TerfBangs · 13/06/2020 14:26

I just shared Rowling's blog post on my Facebook too. I'm 29 and have lots of friends and acquaintances who will think I'm an evil transphobe but I'm past caring. I've had a few surprising likes and only one negative comment saying Rowling is 'awful', from someone who I think thought I was sharing it in outrage instead 😬 (I used to be a total mindless TWAW-spouting libfem so it will come as a shock to people that I'm GC now). I feel like a burden has been lifted if I'm honest!

idsisatwat · 13/06/2020 15:08

I had my eyes opened by the feminist boards here. A couple of years ago I didn’t think any of it was a big deal, be kind etc. And then I started reading things on here, and peaked.
ThePankhurstConnection yes, that’s the story. Love your username - It’s a place I frequently recommend to the women I work with

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BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 13/06/2020 15:31

I’ve been posting and sharing all sorts of GC material for quite a while now. Never a “like” or a comment from anyone, not even family members. Until I commented on someone else’s post about nonsensical “inclusive” bollocks. I was perfectly polite but clear. Got called a T**f, a bigot and a cunt. BY MEN. Who I swiftly unfriended, and was unfriended by yet another man separately for being a vile bigot. For stating that we have reservations about having trans women in our single-sex spaces because they are men.

One good thing happened, was sent a private message by a lonely Canadian friend who was relieved to know she was not alone in her views, so wasn’t going mad. I’d be going mad if I was Canadian as well

SionnachGlic · 13/06/2020 15:36

I don't even know what GC is!? Must look -up. But, why do we have to be 'woke ' & have a defining label or view of everything & everyone? What about just letting people live their lives in the way that they want without having to have a view or voicing an opinion on it or them.

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