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Douglas Murray on JKR

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lucymaudmonty · 12/06/2020 13:40

As someone who has long thought of myself as a left leaning feminist I am surprised by how much I increasingly agree with every word Douglas Murray writes.

Here is on JKR

unherd.com/2020/06/why-j-k-rowling-had-to-be-denounced/

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Italiangreyhound · 18/06/2020 22:35

TheRealMcKenna fair point, I just found a lot of similarities in some of the talks. I've not read the book.

MaMaLa321 · 19/06/2020 09:56

Back in the thread, a poster commented that DM doesn't get as much abuse for his support of GC ideas as a woman would do. He talks about this in this converstation with Lionel Shriver.

Justhadathought · 19/06/2020 21:10

www.spectator.co.uk/article/a-simple-solution-to-the-jk-rowling-trans-row

Because let us remember, these are people so unfit to play any meaningful role in the adult world that they are currently railing and crying and kicking their feet at the prospect of having to be in a publishing company that would dare to publish a children’s book. They have not been forced to publish Rowling’s collected blogs. They are not being forced to work on ‘JK Rowling’s Big Book of Trans’. No, these people are furious because they work in a publishing house which is publishing ‘The Ickabog’, and that the book’s author has said something which even if it were not true and agreed on by the majority of the general public (which it is) should still be permissible to say in a free society

So here is an idea – and I give it out there for free. One of the great moments of Ronald Reagan’s presidency was his firing of the airline traffic controllers. In August 1981, these federal employees held the public of the United States government and public hostage. Their unreasonable demands were jeopardising the American public’s travel plans at peak holiday travel season. In one of the great stands of his presidency, Reagan overnight fired 11,000 air traffic controllers who had refused to return to work unless their demands were met. New, non-recalcitrant staff were immediately brought in to replace the deeply replaceable workers and business soon returned to normal. The president also instituted a lifetime ban on rehiring of these workers

If publishing house after publishing house and paper after paper is going to be held hostage by the young army of bigots like the anti-Rowling brigade it is high time that somebody made an example of them. The people who cannot bear to work at a publishing house that publishes ‘The Ickabog’ are a very good and agreeable place to start. There are at least 100 people at Hachette who have now identified themselves as ignorant of the tenets of a free society and utterly unsuited to the industry they have chosen to work in

I don’t know that there should be a lifetime ban on them working in the publishing industry. Some among their number might grow up. But there should certainly be a large number of much-desired job vacancies coming up at Hachette soon

TheRealMcKenna · 19/06/2020 21:48

@Justhadathought it’s a great article.

I can just imagine what will happen if any of those staff members apply for a job at the Spectator.......

BovaryX · 20/06/2020 13:36

This part made me laugh:

Until fairly recently, the heady cocktail of stupidity and sensitivity required to imagine that J.K. Rowling is some anti-trans bigot would have been confined to a few campuses. But as I wrote in The Spectator’s UK cover piece last week, today the illiberal youth the campuses have created have poured into the professions, where they imagine their role is to educate people far more knowledgeable than themselves.No sector suffers from these presumptuous puritans more than the worlds of publishing and journalism

Winesalot · 25/06/2020 09:52

His tweet about Pink News' reporting of the Reading stabbings continues to ram home his support for free speech and JKR right to it and the right of individual views.

I’m an independent-minded man who happens to be gay. I’m not part of your ‘community’, and have no desire to be. Especially while it is policed by radical activists whose current priority is hounding, and trying to shame, female authors.

twitter.com/DouglasKMurray/status/1275812844651581445?s=20

The comments are worth a read as well.

TheRealMcKenna · 25/06/2020 14:49

@Winesalot

His tweet about Pink News' reporting of the Reading stabbings continues to ram home his support for free speech and JKR right to it and the right of individual views.

I’m an independent-minded man who happens to be gay. I’m not part of your ‘community’, and have no desire to be. Especially while it is policed by radical activists whose current priority is hounding, and trying to shame, female authors.

twitter.com/DouglasKMurray/status/1275812844651581445?s=20

The comments are worth a read as well.

Winesalot Did you catch his interview with Dan Wootton? He pretty much echoes everything else he’s said.
Winesalot · 25/06/2020 17:25

I did not TheRealMcKenna. But I will go and have a nosy now.

maudavery · 25/06/2020 21:57

Does anyone else find him extremely attractive?Blush

DidoLamenting · 25/06/2020 22:52

Douglas Murray is extremely attractive. I'm very partial to articulate, urbane posh boys in suits.

MaMaLa321 · 25/06/2020 23:09

yes - and that lovely voice!

Goosefoot · 25/06/2020 23:17

Not my type but he is very articulate. Not all writers are so it's nice.

Goosefoot · 25/06/2020 23:23

So articulate on camera, I mean.

NonnyMouse1337 · 25/06/2020 23:54

@maudavery

Does anyone else find him extremely attractive?Blush
Yes, I do. Blush

He's a good writer and also very articulate when speaking. It's rare to be skilled in both aspects. And he's very handsome. Even if I disagree with him on a number of things, I still enjoy watching his videos. Blush

SunsetBeetch · 26/06/2020 08:53

@Winesalot

His tweet about Pink News' reporting of the Reading stabbings continues to ram home his support for free speech and JKR right to it and the right of individual views.

I’m an independent-minded man who happens to be gay. I’m not part of your ‘community’, and have no desire to be. Especially while it is policed by radical activists whose current priority is hounding, and trying to shame, female authors.

twitter.com/DouglasKMurray/status/1275812844651581445?s=20

The comments are worth a read as well.

Oh yes, lots of LGBT people sick of LGBT as a brand or tribe. Very interesting.
TheRealMcKenna · 26/06/2020 09:07

Does anyone else find him extremely attractive?

I’ll just leave this here......

Douglas Murray on JKR
NonnyMouse1337 · 26/06/2020 09:24

@TheRealMcKenna

Does anyone else find him extremely attractive?

I’ll just leave this here......

😏😏😁
SunsetBeetch · 26/06/2020 09:36

Oh behave, you lot Grin

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 26/06/2020 11:01

Oh behave, you lot

I’m wondering which of them ^ is Douglas

TheRealMcKenna · 26/06/2020 11:30

I’m wondering which of them ^ is Douglas

We all are.

It’s the new “I am Spartacus”.

maudavery · 26/06/2020 12:34

Bloody gorgeous!

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