Girl's legal challenge to CPS!

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I haven't seen this posted already, apologies if I missed an existing thread. The Times is reporting that a girl is challenging the CPS over 'pro trans' bias. Another legal challenge, another example of the flimsy construction of these policies.

^Girl, 14, takes on prosecution service over ‘pro-trans bias’ The girl has already forced the CPS to withdraw guidance on transgender bullying
A teenage girl has threatened the Crown Prosecution Service with legal action over its alleged bias about transgender issues. Lawyers for the 14-year-old have told the CPS that it must pull out of a “diversity champions” programme run by the charity Stonewall, which campaigns for equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual and trans people.
The campaign group gives diversity awards to employers who support gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender staff members and expects them to do so “beyond” the workplace, encouraging members to be “advocates and agents of positive change”.A pre-action letter issued by the girl’s lawyers said the CPS’s association with Stonewall put it in breach of the law by failing to show impartiality on transgender rights. Stonewall believes that gender identity should be treated as a protected characteristic and therefore carry legal protection under Equalities Act 2010^

My question is, why are there so many bloody awards?

Deaf people struggle at work, autistic people struggle at work, visually impaired people struggle at work, workplace bullying is a massive issue, the list could go on and on.

Are we supposed to have champions and awards and lanyards and a night out at a nice hotel for every single one? Which one is the best that we should focus on and skip the others?

Or perhaps when we do diversity, should we not be just focussed on one bit but all of it, skip the lobby groups and the awards ceremonies and just do the law.

Not a lawyer, but hoping that if the CPS drop Stonewall then the pressure can be put on other public sector organisations to do the same. If it's shown that Stonewall is promoting impartiality and unfairness (by trashing women's rights in favour of the indefinable Q and T) then surely that would be true of all the other organisations that have signed up to it?

I wish her luck shes sadly going to need it.

Like the police the cps shouldnt be aligning themselves with political groups should they? So much for impartiality

I notice the comments dont disappoint. So fed up with the whataboutary. They sit back and leave it to mums and teenage girls to sort out then complain boys and men arent centred enough

This is about privacy and dignity for everyone. But we cant must ignore the statistics re sexual harassment and assault to avoid hurting their feelings .

They have had every opportunity fo get their sons protesting to.

Stonewall are buggered-you cannot represent LGB if you also represent T. They are clearly just chasing the money now & will eventually fall-just like kids company-these charities start off with good intentions then it all goes wrong.

I believe one of the big wigs in the CPS has a son with autogynephilia
From the comments in the Times piece.

This would explain why the CPS went so far beyond their remit. Personally invested, encouraged to be woke by the GEO and Ministry of Justice, seduced by Stonewall law which is so much more glittery than actual law....

Bit I recently saw a video on twitter of a young man openly talking about how his diagnosis of autogynephilia was affecting his life-it was fascinating & honest. But also clearly underlined why men with AGP absolutely need to be kept out of womens single sex spaces.

... will eventually fall-just like kids company...

This is what I want for Christmas.

^I believe one of the big wigs in the CPS has a son with autogynephilia
From the comments in the Times piece^.

Yes I saw that comment too. Unsubstantiated, but it wouldn't be at all surprising given the level of capture of this organisation.

Just been reading the comments to the article - why can’t these points be debated, talked about - why must they be considered “hate speech”

I wrote to the CPS last March to challenge that guidance. They left out sex in the list of Protected characteristics! My council, and many others, did the exact same thing. Stonewall are on record saying they want a review of the Equality Act and specifically single sex spaces.

People have been very industrious getting into positions of power where they have influence on local politics/legislation

www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/news/amp/transgender-councillor-criticises-proposed-change-to-cambridge-city-council-equality-policy-amid-toilets-row-9050152/?__twitter_impression=true

Ah, but complying with the law, as Cambridge has had to do here, is "taking a step backwards" and therefore 'transphobic'.

So let's see the two councillors concerned seek a judicial review then. It would be a bold departure from leaving it up to young teenage girls to seek clarity in the law, wouldn't it? I don't intend to hold my breath though.

I think this is brilliant news. It's about exposure. I think she's got locus to challenge an irrational and unreasonable decision by a state body to hand over its guidance to an unelected political lobbying group that discriminates against women and girls.

But it's not my opinion that's worth a damn. Let's see what the court says - if the CPS don't back down again.

Win or don't win - it will get much needed exposure for something that's seriously wrong.

I'm laughing at the comments on the Times article. There's one very aggressive TRA who says things like "No trans person is anti-women. Trans women are women so that would be illogical."

Followed by:

"Because this is just one person out of a whole school who is complaining. Someone with an mother who is a trans exclusionary radical feminist... probably with a low paid cleaner"

and

"Why has no one had any actual issue with it until the vocal organised professional transphobic misandrist lesbian activists started making noises a couple of years ago?"

Yeah. Not anti-women at all. Fuckwit.

They are so angry at woman for wising up to what they are doing.

Wheres the anger at the activists who have ruined it for them?

Has no one told them the story of icarus?

Win or don't win - it will get much needed exposure for something that's seriously wrong.

Indeed. The exposure is crucial. Stonewall need to be held accountable for the fact that they have changed the definition of lesbian, gay and bisexual.

Everyone needs to understand that two men engaged in fellatio can now be lesbians, according to the very group who is supposed to be protecting lesbians. (And that Stonewall will call the police on you, given an opportunity, if you say otherwise - see the comments.)

Yeah. Not anti-women at all. Fuckwit.

It's almost funny.

Digging needed, let’s get our spades out.

The CPS should be impartial.

This.

Start and end of issue. It's not a case of 'it's ok for the CPS (and other govt bodies) to ignore the Nolan principles and integrity and be biased if there's a really good reason'. This has been the trans political lobby's entire MO. There's a magic password which by their belief should bypass all standards, policies, practices, procedures, principles and safeguarding, somewhat like a Masonic code, but never apply to the therefore subordinated muggles.

The whats and whys are irrelevant, if bias is there it's indefensible. The huge shame is that public bodies have been able to be captured in this way, and so many people working for them have failed in their most basic duty. Returning them to compatible with law and representing all citizens interests equally is going to mean a bonfire of jobs and policies and starting again from scratch. And while we're at it, let's put CAFCASS in the same reorganisation programme and do the same 'how to spot when you're being groomed and understand when you're acting as a useful idiot' work on them, for much the same reasons.

I wonder what percent of women have had negative comments because they are women

Oh I'm gonna guess 99% of women. Even though I'm officially old and beyond the ken of most men now, I still get comments, and felt up.

The other one percent also get comments but are oblivious or dont see it as aimed at them.

Can you explain CAFCASS reference please Michelleoftheresistance Seem to have missed this,

Lol. No, the mother is on a low wage herself, and the girl in question was this morning getting angry about the gunning down of mothers in a maternity unit in Afghanistan. But yeah, I'll take credit for raising her to know her rights and fight for them and others. No problem.

And at calling the women campaigning to keep their rights against those using Trans-everything as a wedge 'misandrist'. Tipping your hand a bit there by acknowledging the demanded privileges for Trans groups are actually men's demands. Which we knew.

"No trans person is anti-women. Trans women are women so that would be illogical."

Get it out there in the newspapers, let everyone read all this nonsense and make up their own minds.

BigBad, another for your wonderful daughter. Chapeau.

BigBad you must be so proud. Thank you to both of you.

But it's not my opinion that's worth a damn. Let's see what the court says - if the CPS don't back down again

I think this is much less likely to happen this time - they will have lots of little rainbows and statements on publications, and plaques stuck on their wall proclaiming themselves as Stonewall champions. It is not a simple question of quietly ceasing to promote on particular piece of guidance.